Easyjet Switzerland???
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Easyjet Switzerland???
I am wondering about what a typical life is like at EJ switzerland.
Block hours a month, days off per month, upgrade time (approx. time line, I know it is quite difficult to say with this economic downturn). Is the company still making money or is it having trouble? etc......
Any and all information would be appreciated.
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Block hours a month, days off per month, upgrade time (approx. time line, I know it is quite difficult to say with this economic downturn). Is the company still making money or is it having trouble? etc......
Any and all information would be appreciated.
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Just a bit of info for you. Block time currently 70-80ish hrs a month. Rostering, well they have just implemented a new 'agreement' which means you can be scheduled for 2 blocks of 2 days off per month, a maximum of 18 of these two day blocks can be allocated in any year. For example a 5-2-4-2-5 is possible. A guaranteed block of 4 consecutive days will be granted in every month. A fixed rosta similar to the UK would obviously be welcomed , as it stands you are informed of your monthly duties on the 20th day of the preceding month. It makes planning rather difficult!
Upgrading time..another contentious issue. They have just implemented a change in upgrade policy from FO to SFO from 1500 hrs (still the case in the UK) to 3000 factored hrs in Switzerland. Meaning a two year or more delay in many cases to some pilots just short of 1500 hrs. These changes were all implemented by management disregarding the current terms and conditions, and despite obvious opposition from the Pilots.
On a plus side your are paid in Swiss Francs, which at the moment is very strong against the UK pound, how long that will last is anyones guess.
Upgrading time..another contentious issue. They have just implemented a change in upgrade policy from FO to SFO from 1500 hrs (still the case in the UK) to 3000 factored hrs in Switzerland. Meaning a two year or more delay in many cases to some pilots just short of 1500 hrs. These changes were all implemented by management disregarding the current terms and conditions, and despite obvious opposition from the Pilots.
On a plus side your are paid in Swiss Francs, which at the moment is very strong against the UK pound, how long that will last is anyones guess.
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Concerning the upgrade from FO to SFO isn-t there also a new rule stating that you must have 1000 + hours experience on the Airbus ?
Which would mean that even with 5000 hours experience and no A319 family type rating, you-re an JFO as a new joiner for +- 2 years anyways....
Which would mean that even with 5000 hours experience and no A319 family type rating, you-re an JFO as a new joiner for +- 2 years anyways....
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Yes, GVA is a base as well as BSL, they are our Swiss base.
For the recruitment, you shall use easyJet website, they should re-open the application access to allow pilots to apply for Switzerland again.
Cheers
Fab
For the recruitment, you shall use easyJet website, they should re-open the application access to allow pilots to apply for Switzerland again.
Cheers
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Info on EZY Swisse
Hi there,
went through the selection process last August 2008.
Holding number 72 but informed that my staying in the holding will now have an expiry date (2 years).
Contacted by EZY for a proposal, in EZY Swisse, due over the next 6 months, but no info so far regarding duration and type of contract.
I didn't understand in your expose, if the 4 days off are guaranteed each month. May a see a typical monthly roster?
And where may I have info on EZY Swisse contract, as on the web site there are no info concerning wages and all that stuff.
Is it also true that once based in Switzerland we can always apply for relocation in all the others EZY bases? If yes, within how long since hired?
Thanks a lot to everyone.
Gus320
went through the selection process last August 2008.
Holding number 72 but informed that my staying in the holding will now have an expiry date (2 years).
Contacted by EZY for a proposal, in EZY Swisse, due over the next 6 months, but no info so far regarding duration and type of contract.
I didn't understand in your expose, if the 4 days off are guaranteed each month. May a see a typical monthly roster?
And where may I have info on EZY Swisse contract, as on the web site there are no info concerning wages and all that stuff.
Is it also true that once based in Switzerland we can always apply for relocation in all the others EZY bases? If yes, within how long since hired?
Thanks a lot to everyone.
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Easy Swiss salary
Hello,
would appreciate if any insider could provide me with the monthly salary as SFO and FO when joining Easy Swiss, 'cause they have asked me a few weeks ago if I am still interested to move to Swiss and I said yes.
With my experience on A320 family (over 2200hrs) can I expect to work as SFO or FO?
Thank you in advance
NIK_
would appreciate if any insider could provide me with the monthly salary as SFO and FO when joining Easy Swiss, 'cause they have asked me a few weeks ago if I am still interested to move to Swiss and I said yes.
With my experience on A320 family (over 2200hrs) can I expect to work as SFO or FO?
Thank you in advance
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Is it also true that once based in Switzerland we can always apply for relocation in all the others EZY bases? If yes, within how long since hired?
Thanks a lot to everyone.
Thanks a lot to everyone.
EZS and EZY UK are different companies.
If you decide to leave EZS, then you will have to undergo full EZY UK selection (when they are recruiting again in the future.)
However, I used to work for EZS (BSL and GVA) and really enjoyed my time there.
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Sorry, but procedures have not changed.
I personally know a skipper who is top of a transfer list out of a swiss base and into a UK base.
He has been bypassed twice in the past 3 months - reason given? No right of transfer from EZYswiss to EZYUK, as they are different companies and different AOC's he would be classed as a DEC. They are allowed to log there names as an expression of interest only on our waiting lists. EZYswiss comes to EZY UK when they need FO's and we have a supply for them, for a UK skipper to join EZY swiss he would have to join in the RHS and try to get upgraded over there.
All this may change if waiting lists were empty and we had a shortage of pilots - not about to happen anytime soon with a bursting CPI list and constant supply of cadets to fill the RHS I'm afraid.
I personally know a skipper who is top of a transfer list out of a swiss base and into a UK base.
He has been bypassed twice in the past 3 months - reason given? No right of transfer from EZYswiss to EZYUK, as they are different companies and different AOC's he would be classed as a DEC. They are allowed to log there names as an expression of interest only on our waiting lists. EZYswiss comes to EZY UK when they need FO's and we have a supply for them, for a UK skipper to join EZY swiss he would have to join in the RHS and try to get upgraded over there.
All this may change if waiting lists were empty and we had a shortage of pilots - not about to happen anytime soon with a bursting CPI list and constant supply of cadets to fill the RHS I'm afraid.
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They have a requirement for FO's in EZY swiss.
They say you can transfer no problem as they have a requirement.
When they no longer have a requirement and you want to transfer, guess what, procedures will have changed............
Procedures have not changed, procedures are to make the rules fit what they want when they want, to trust them on anything else is risky.
If you go to swiss as an FO, fine, but you better be sure about where you want to be a skipper and where you want to enter the upgrade process as that is not transferable and never will be as long as the seperate AOC and unions exist.
Have you ever looked up the waiting lists for BSL or GVA on the intranet? They are not there.
They say you can transfer no problem as they have a requirement.
When they no longer have a requirement and you want to transfer, guess what, procedures will have changed............
Procedures have not changed, procedures are to make the rules fit what they want when they want, to trust them on anything else is risky.
If you go to swiss as an FO, fine, but you better be sure about where you want to be a skipper and where you want to enter the upgrade process as that is not transferable and never will be as long as the seperate AOC and unions exist.
Have you ever looked up the waiting lists for BSL or GVA on the intranet? They are not there.
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That was meant to be a friendly warning from someone who I can assure you is very much in the know and very closely placed to this subject both now and in the past.
By your own admission " Captains may be a different case". I assume one day you may grow up and want to become a Captain. In the past commands have been available in Topswizz to UK SFOs being upgraded as dictated by the needs at the time. If this were to happen now ther would by an outcry from the swiss union and swiss FOs all waiting for upgrades.
The link between UKEZY and SWISSEZY is like a drawbridge that the company can pull up and down as and when they please as there is no formal industrial agreements on anything as they are two seperate entities that can help each other out from their own resources when it suits them.
I have actually seen the swiss offers and have read much documentation on them and there is an emphaisis on haveing a desire/interest in working in Switzerland if you choose to go there - I cannot help you read between the lines much more than that if you cannot see it for yourself, all the precedents on this were set long ago.
Bottom line no industrial agreements between topswiss and EZY, means they can do what they like, as long as you understand that, enjoy the move.
PS might want to ask yourself why EZY hasn't mentioned any of this to you but a colleague who "knows nothing" with no invested interest in wether you move to Switzerland or not has. Carry on biting the hand that really feeds you, it will serve you well.
By your own admission " Captains may be a different case". I assume one day you may grow up and want to become a Captain. In the past commands have been available in Topswizz to UK SFOs being upgraded as dictated by the needs at the time. If this were to happen now ther would by an outcry from the swiss union and swiss FOs all waiting for upgrades.
The link between UKEZY and SWISSEZY is like a drawbridge that the company can pull up and down as and when they please as there is no formal industrial agreements on anything as they are two seperate entities that can help each other out from their own resources when it suits them.
I have actually seen the swiss offers and have read much documentation on them and there is an emphaisis on haveing a desire/interest in working in Switzerland if you choose to go there - I cannot help you read between the lines much more than that if you cannot see it for yourself, all the precedents on this were set long ago.
Bottom line no industrial agreements between topswiss and EZY, means they can do what they like, as long as you understand that, enjoy the move.
PS might want to ask yourself why EZY hasn't mentioned any of this to you but a colleague who "knows nothing" with no invested interest in wether you move to Switzerland or not has. Carry on biting the hand that really feeds you, it will serve you well.
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from what I hear, ezydriver is correct. The EPG has elected to halt any transfer from Swiss to UK for command as it isn't a 2 way street and until it becomes so then the various unions will resist any further transfer. Not totally sure about rhs to rhs but transfer for promotion is definately canned.
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Can anyone here answer the question : How much is the starting salary for an FO?
As you need to pay for the TR, I wondered how much an FO get the first year.
As you need to pay for the TR, I wondered how much an FO get the first year.
FO (1st 6 months of employment) : 63996.- CHF
FO (afterwards) : 79848.- CHF
SFO (1st 3 months of employment) : 78312.- CHF
SFO (Afterwards) : 97740.- CHF
Hope this will help!