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Old 25th Mar 2009, 17:54
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sorry nuageblanc I forgot the fantastic level of english you guys have in France.. you are right, I should explain with different words, but it would be wasting time..enjoy your wonderful airline,life,nightstops,trips etc.much better than anyone else's.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 20:44
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Clara,

Are you flying for an airline at the moment, or ever have done?

My suspicion is "no", and give it a few years and you will be the first to gripe about those new entrants who appear to be raping the terms and conditions of your beloved job, and will swear blind that it wasn't like that in your day!

Just remember....

Your general attitude is atrocious, and the fact you refer to Easy as "we" and sign off as Easy Clara, does your arrogance know no bounds???? Apparently not...

Your knowledge of the general industry is obviously limited re. the security issue, but more the problem, your ideas of what makes pilots tick is non-existent.

I'm guessing you have paid for a rating, and have no other experience in TPs, night freight, air taxi, apprenticeships generally????

The truth will find you out is a wonderful saying......

What a pleasure you will be....
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 21:17
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If "it" really is a "she", is it possible for a woman to be a w@nker ? or is there another derogatory term that I should be familiar with, & therefore able to apply to the opposite sex ?
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 11:02
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Dear all,

Please can anyone tell me how to report FLYING CLARA?? It would seem I hit a nerve with my last post and in return I recieved a very offensive private email which I would like a moderator to view. My thanks in advance.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 11:22
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Rosco just private message a mod and explain, I'm pretty sure they can access your inbox if needs be. I'd also advocate the use of the ignore function with Flying Muppet. He/She/It is a waste of space.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 11:29
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Cmon-Pullup

I agree that a lot of people will jump ship from Easy, when they can, exactly the same happened at Ryanair a few years ago, they were bleeding pilots main artery style, until they realised that they had to at least give them a fair crack at base choice, and also stabilise the roster situation. Arguably the situation there now is the minimum basic requirement to keep people, I won't say happy, but to keep people or rather to lose a lot fewer than previous figures.

Management, in any company, need to realise that the imposition of change in terms and working conditions needs to be tackled with kid gloves. Negotiation and agreement is the only way, unless you don't care if you replace your whole workforce, or a substantial, formerly valuable, part. Some changes are just not worth the cost saving because of the damage to the way people will work for you due to their changing attitude towards management and the workplace. I think that this damage is occurring now at Easy, from what I read here, and from those I know who work there.

Question is, when will they be able to move on, how much will it cost the company - I am guessing they have projected figures for the financial implication, but it is simply not possible to guess how the company will change as a result of changing attitudes.

I think one thing is certain: there will not be a problem replacing those who leave, however you are right in that there is a financial cost in this, and a hidden cost also. Perhaps interestingly, Easy will possibly become more like Ryanair, with far fewer career Easyjet pilots than before, more and more might join, serve their two years or whatever is their goal, and move on. I hope management have accounted for all of that.

For myself, I would still, one day, like to work for Easy, but it is now more an opportunity to progress temporarily, rather than to settle there long term. That way I can let the current management style wash over me and not be too concerned about it. Frankly I can think of no other defence to being valued how Easy appear to be valuing staff currently.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 15:03
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Simple solution here

Join BALPA

Get your CC to tell Management what you’re not happy with and give them 30 days to come back with a solution.

If you’re still not happy, ballot for industrial action.

You then watch Management **** themselves and when the dust settles, watch the re shuffle of Managers.

BALPA BALPA BALPA BALPA BALPA

Clara, fancy dinner sometime. Your funny
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 15:29
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Clara, you really are a tosser and indeed a shining example of why myself and many other professional pilots rarely use this site anymore.

Unbelievable. Get back to Flight Sim on your PC. Thank goodness I will never have to share a flight deck with you.

Rant over
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 15:53
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EGCC,
I think you are absolutely right and I think that at some point we will all end up in a ballot. In my base this is what the workforce is ready to do. BALPA is not happy and in the last newsletter released say it clearly.

Our professionalism is not up for sale...

Regarding the Crew Food I would like to encourage anyone to fill out a fatigue report if he/she thinks food and water ( only 1 liter of water for 5 hours of flight duty) is not enough and report it to the CAA as well. There is a matter of safety here!

Please be united! and be READY!

Regarding Clara: she is not even a professional pilot. let her talk and do not reply. I doubt she'll be never ever seated on an airline jet, or maybe yes...but having paid a ticket...
thanks
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:00
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Yes you're right. I got irritated then and felt unable to be quiet any longer!

And we must all be united on all issues. But don't you think that all this stuff may be better discussed on the private forum rather than airing dirty linen in public? (even journos can read this!). Please don't think I'm criticising, merely a comment or open question really.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:07
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Does easyjet hire low hours pilots. I have a jar25 type rating and about 300 hours total. I would love to fly an easyjet airbus a319.
Do I have to apply directly with easyjet or ctc or atp?
Many thanks for your help.
PS: I don't mind if there is no food/drinks on board. I have been working in a bank where they donīt provide you with any food/drinks, so I am used to it.

John.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:11
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Flying Clara is a Troll either from, or trying to get into Hangar 89. Ignore it.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:26
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Thumbs down

Join BALPA
Balpa has lost lots of members (and I am one of those) because they are just USELESS. The only thing they want is to suck you 500 pounds a year on your bank account for doing nothing.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:30
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Wind check - well they'll definately do nothing for you now you're not a member!

Seriously though, please put your past experiences and expectations aside and consider joining again. Please. We need all the members we can get now. These are dark times. If after a few months and hopefully all this has calmed down a little then leave again.

But please consider re-joining.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:41
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Why the slating of Clara?

She seems passionate about the company she works for and is adopting the "don't give me problems; give me solutions" approach.

I like her style. I certainly would not be complaining - there are 1000s of low hr cadets out there ready to fill in the shoes of those dissatisfied.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:56
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Because she is a total muppet, BSmuppet. She has no idea what she is talking about and has the square root of all experience in the job, yet preaches to those who have worked for the company and been in this business for years, telling them they should be grateful that easyjet see fit to employ them. At best naieve, at worst completely ego-centric and unable to comprehend anything beyond her own nose.

She'll make a great manager.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 17:01
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BSMUPPET

CLARA does not and will never fly for Easyjet , she/he is a TROLL , ignore her/him.

Those of us in BALPA in Easy are defending our Terms and Conditions and those of the 1000's who would like in the future to fill our shoes.

Your attitude and those 1000's like you, only serve to drive pay & conditions at Easy (and all other airlines) further into an ever increasing downward spiral, fuelled by your blind ambition to sit in a shiny jet and the acceptance of the lowering terms and conditions in order to do so.

Please look at the wider bigger picture.

At the moment you are an Airline Managers wet dream.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 17:08
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This message is hidden because BSmuppet is on your ignore list.

This message is hidden because Flying_Clara is on your ignore list.

Ah, sigh, that's better. Now back to the thread.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 17:12
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I'm pretty sure that in the past Clara has claimed to have been one of the ATP pay to fly gals/guys from last summer. If that's the case then she/he is probably returning for another 6 months this year.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 17:28
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Nobody from the ATP pay as you go scheme was ever offered employment from Easyjet.

The temps or "flexicrew" FO's for this summer all come from the various CTC schemes one of which is also confusingly called ATP
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