Are Ryanair no longer hiring former employees?
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I believe the debate can probably be decided by 3 things. In reverse order.
3.) Your level of experience
2.) Whether your level of experience is in an area which Ryanair require you.
1.) Who you know that is very senior in the company and will therefore support your case.
I only konw a few guys that have returned to Ryanair, however they were experienced, previously long serving employees. Undoubtably they knew a few peeps who would ease their re-entry process. I know a number of not so experienced chaps who left because they believed the 'grass was greener.' It wasn't and FR told them to **** off.
3.) Your level of experience
2.) Whether your level of experience is in an area which Ryanair require you.
1.) Who you know that is very senior in the company and will therefore support your case.
I only konw a few guys that have returned to Ryanair, however they were experienced, previously long serving employees. Undoubtably they knew a few peeps who would ease their re-entry process. I know a number of not so experienced chaps who left because they believed the 'grass was greener.' It wasn't and FR told them to **** off.
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Can you stop whining? I doubt it but you could do us all a favour and try a different moan.
And while I remember, stop "inventing" statements to suit your assertions: I have not said that there is no unpaid leave or unpaid leave doesn't exist.
Can you stop whining? I doubt it but you could do us all a favour and try a different moan.
And while I remember, stop "inventing" statements to suit your assertions: I have not said that there is no unpaid leave or unpaid leave doesn't exist.
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Pikeys and their pikey beatches.
Does anyone need any further explaination.
RYR and its type are to aviation what essex barrow boy traders and usesless whiz kids bankers are to the economy. Only the economy has given in first.
Anyone that can justify the detrimental effect this wideboy approach has had and will continue to have on the industry is obviously a product of the "pay as you go " policy and a disgrace.
The industry will reap what you are sowing. RYR will not last forever, but the surplus of kids (or desperados) with daddys or the banks cash and atpl will linger.
For the record , im a self abuser and have never paid for a rating , but what I did do was train within my means , not the banks and not my parents.
I have been out of work, redundant etc etc. The hocked to the eyeballs pilots at ryr have many parallels with the ex houseowners currently holding their heads in their hands. RYR will go as the world gets wise to smart arse business plans thatare just a con for the consumer.. Just hope youve squared away your debt before they do.
Praise the lord and pass the communion
Does anyone need any further explaination.
RYR and its type are to aviation what essex barrow boy traders and usesless whiz kids bankers are to the economy. Only the economy has given in first.
Anyone that can justify the detrimental effect this wideboy approach has had and will continue to have on the industry is obviously a product of the "pay as you go " policy and a disgrace.
The industry will reap what you are sowing. RYR will not last forever, but the surplus of kids (or desperados) with daddys or the banks cash and atpl will linger.
For the record , im a self abuser and have never paid for a rating , but what I did do was train within my means , not the banks and not my parents.
I have been out of work, redundant etc etc. The hocked to the eyeballs pilots at ryr have many parallels with the ex houseowners currently holding their heads in their hands. RYR will go as the world gets wise to smart arse business plans thatare just a con for the consumer.. Just hope youve squared away your debt before they do.
Praise the lord and pass the communion
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Farty Flaps,
Real grown up statement, thanks for that. It speaks for your mentality by smashing the Ryanair model and all those 'kiddos' who believe that they can fly airplanes as great as you do...
Wheelie my Boeing,
That is correct indeed, there are still plenty of airlines that do not bond you on a type rating. But on the other hand, positions in those airlines are hard to get because everybody wants to be in. Perhaps, you've proven yourself to get in such an airline, congrats on that. Not everybody has the same luck or specific skill. So I believe respect to those who are working for an airline where a bonding on a type rating is needed, would be appreciated.
It is even necesary that agressive low fare airlines exist today. Imagine that there were no low fare airlines today. Oh yes, everybody will fly BA, AF/KLM, LH, etc? I guess not. Then the airline industry would face a far more 'spiral dive' because a lot of people can not afford flying on these airlines in times like this! And I'm not even talking about how much higher tickets of such airlines would be if low fare airlines would not exist...
So, you start to understand? A company on its own, or beter said, a bussiness model on its own without having competitors is doomed to fail!
Oh yes FF, this statement is made by such a kiddo who wants to fly airplanes as good as you do. I am not there yet, or even won't get there either
. But I allready do know, that my experience in bussiness makes me a far better understander of todays economics. 
Cheers
Real grown up statement, thanks for that. It speaks for your mentality by smashing the Ryanair model and all those 'kiddos' who believe that they can fly airplanes as great as you do...
Wheelie my Boeing,
That is correct indeed, there are still plenty of airlines that do not bond you on a type rating. But on the other hand, positions in those airlines are hard to get because everybody wants to be in. Perhaps, you've proven yourself to get in such an airline, congrats on that. Not everybody has the same luck or specific skill. So I believe respect to those who are working for an airline where a bonding on a type rating is needed, would be appreciated.
It is even necesary that agressive low fare airlines exist today. Imagine that there were no low fare airlines today. Oh yes, everybody will fly BA, AF/KLM, LH, etc? I guess not. Then the airline industry would face a far more 'spiral dive' because a lot of people can not afford flying on these airlines in times like this! And I'm not even talking about how much higher tickets of such airlines would be if low fare airlines would not exist...
So, you start to understand? A company on its own, or beter said, a bussiness model on its own without having competitors is doomed to fail!
Oh yes FF, this statement is made by such a kiddo who wants to fly airplanes as good as you do. I am not there yet, or even won't get there either
. But I allready do know, that my experience in bussiness makes me a far better understander of todays economics. Cheers
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I never implied that i fly better. I did stae that I didnt buy my way into a comapny or train beyond my means.allude to the dire straits approaching this industry due to the pay as you go pilots.
Paying for your selection , trg and line flying. No conflict of interest there then.
Low cost is not a threat but low cost at any cost is. Tempting young men and women with early commands after a rapid rise through a financilaly based trg programme is nonsense.
Read the thread on the myt pay as you go pilot in rumours and while your there give those belgian chips (or is it fries) a day off. Your shoulders must be hurting.
The beast cometh and the number of the beast is RYR i mean 666.
I never implied that i fly better. I did stae that I didnt buy my way into a comapny or train beyond my means.allude to the dire straits approaching this industry due to the pay as you go pilots.
Paying for your selection , trg and line flying. No conflict of interest there then.
Low cost is not a threat but low cost at any cost is. Tempting young men and women with early commands after a rapid rise through a financilaly based trg programme is nonsense.
Read the thread on the myt pay as you go pilot in rumours and while your there give those belgian chips (or is it fries) a day off. Your shoulders must be hurting.
The beast cometh and the number of the beast is RYR i mean 666.
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Allow, NOT entirely true.
SSP's join on reduced salaries and no they can't pay up front. DEP's do not take a paycut. SSP's start on approx £45k including allowances whereas DEP's start on £62k approx. SSP's have higher pay-rises each year for the first 4/5 years so that they can catch up with the DEP salary.
So... for DEP's, it IS free, not to mention that SSP's taking a pay cut is different to paying the airline money up front. I don't know of ANY FR pilots earning £45k in their first year AND they pay for their type rating first. Don't try and make it sound like there is ANY comparison between the two. There isn't.
SSP's join on reduced salaries and no they can't pay up front. DEP's do not take a paycut. SSP's start on approx £45k including allowances whereas DEP's start on £62k approx. SSP's have higher pay-rises each year for the first 4/5 years so that they can catch up with the DEP salary.
So... for DEP's, it IS free, not to mention that SSP's taking a pay cut is different to paying the airline money up front. I don't know of ANY FR pilots earning £45k in their first year AND they pay for their type rating first. Don't try and make it sound like there is ANY comparison between the two. There isn't.
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off thread again
this is not about pay,who earns more than who,its about former employees trying to rejoin ryr.
now those anybody know IF ryr are taking on guys who have left and want to rejoin,i know i do!!!
if anybody has anything sensible to say pls feel free to PM me ryr guys only,as any inside info would be appreciated.
i now fly a big bus and it certainly has not given me a hard on,if anything been stuck up there for 13hrs at a time it is more likely to make me impotent
thanks in advance
now those anybody know IF ryr are taking on guys who have left and want to rejoin,i know i do!!!
if anybody has anything sensible to say pls feel free to PM me ryr guys only,as any inside info would be appreciated.
i now fly a big bus and it certainly has not given me a hard on,if anything been stuck up there for 13hrs at a time it is more likely to make me impotent
thanks in advance
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Ted,
Pilots have left in the past and returned.
Pilots have left, and will never get back in.
So it depends on how you left.
The only way to know for sure is to apply. Wish you the best of luck.
Pilots have left in the past and returned.
Pilots have left, and will never get back in.
So it depends on how you left.
The only way to know for sure is to apply. Wish you the best of luck.
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any info????
does anybody have any info or inside info as to what is going on inside the white house re; ex-employees trying to return from the not so greener grass which actually turned out to be a different shade of brown mud!!!!
any info is appreciated,but negative info will be disregarded
seasons greetings and all that
any info is appreciated,but negative info will be disregarded
seasons greetings and all that
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Wouldn't have thought there was any change of policy, they always seem quite prosaic in that respect. . . . if the face fits and all that.
If someone has been recently refused it is more likely that they just don't need new Capt's just at this moment. (or the guy is a total jerk
)
I think if someone was well regarded whilst there, worked the correct notice, & didn't p1ss someone off on the way out, the door would at least be ajar for a return visit.
I may of course be talking outa my hole, but certainly that's how it seems to have been in the past and hopefully the number of A/C due in the future should keep it that way. They don't care about being "precious" about things like that, if they can "use" ( & I emphasise that word) you ,they probably will.
Happy New Year, but you failed the second part of selection, you weren't too trashed to type.
If someone has been recently refused it is more likely that they just don't need new Capt's just at this moment. (or the guy is a total jerk
)I think if someone was well regarded whilst there, worked the correct notice, & didn't p1ss someone off on the way out, the door would at least be ajar for a return visit.
I may of course be talking outa my hole, but certainly that's how it seems to have been in the past and hopefully the number of A/C due in the future should keep it that way. They don't care about being "precious" about things like that, if they can "use" ( & I emphasise that word) you ,they probably will.
Happy New Year, but you failed the second part of selection, you weren't too trashed to type.
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Simple answer is NO. Not at the moment, if your an ex FR TRE/TRI and didn't leave on bad terms, when things pick up, possibly..Always worth updating the application..big question is why did you leave in the first place!
Happy new Year
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gday,
are you a man who is in the know?? if so did this come from one of the horses mouths??
i did leave on good terms(i hope) never late never sick and always obliged in 7 yrs,gave my 3 months and was unbonded when i left.
just wondering what the landscape is like at the moment and in the near future,with circa 50 737s coming in the next year there might be an opening for a ready made 737 capt???
i am an optimist kirk,and if you really do have an info regarding the subject matter i really would like so info,pls feel free to pm me if you like.
rgds from craggy island
only reason i left was i wanted to try longhaul,you cant compare apples and oranges unless you taste them.....they dont taste as nice as i thaught,and besides you cant get those sweet sweet apples from bulmers everywhere in the world you know
are you a man who is in the know?? if so did this come from one of the horses mouths??
i did leave on good terms(i hope) never late never sick and always obliged in 7 yrs,gave my 3 months and was unbonded when i left.
just wondering what the landscape is like at the moment and in the near future,with circa 50 737s coming in the next year there might be an opening for a ready made 737 capt???
i am an optimist kirk,and if you really do have an info regarding the subject matter i really would like so info,pls feel free to pm me if you like.
rgds from craggy island
only reason i left was i wanted to try longhaul,you cant compare apples and oranges unless you taste them.....they dont taste as nice as i thaught,and besides you cant get those sweet sweet apples from bulmers everywhere in the world you know
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Ted,
In the last month i know of three ex-RYR pliots who were denied to re-join,
But i also know one who has been allowed, he is somewhat like yourself, went to try long haul, but found the grass (or sand as it may be) not so green.
Hard to figure out the policy, seems to be what has been said before about being a good boy or not, also who is fighting your corner inside.
With 50 new 73's on the way in the next few months, (a figure i got from managment), and a lower amount of upgrades achieving command as hoped,
there should be openings soon,
good luck anyway what ever you do.
In the last month i know of three ex-RYR pliots who were denied to re-join,
But i also know one who has been allowed, he is somewhat like yourself, went to try long haul, but found the grass (or sand as it may be) not so green.
Hard to figure out the policy, seems to be what has been said before about being a good boy or not, also who is fighting your corner inside.
With 50 new 73's on the way in the next few months, (a figure i got from managment), and a lower amount of upgrades achieving command as hoped,
there should be openings soon,
good luck anyway what ever you do.
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Ted,
Will you pay off your 3 year bond with Virgin before you leave us?
What you are experiencing is a very normal thing. It passes in time. Is it wearing 2 stripes and not 4 that bothers you?
Good luck with the move back to FR if that is what you want though.
Will you pay off your 3 year bond with Virgin before you leave us?
What you are experiencing is a very normal thing. It passes in time. Is it wearing 2 stripes and not 4 that bothers you?
Good luck with the move back to FR if that is what you want though.