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Hopefully Lufthansa will invest in some long haul a/c, promote current flight deck and create new positions for us guys & girls! If this were to happen, we would be employed by the 2nd largest airline in the world! No doubt we will have an e-mail from BB soon to explain all.....
Ps.... did we ever find out how many are left in the pool??
Ps.... did we ever find out how many are left in the pool??
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Just my tuppenceworth, Lufti will want to make bmi a profitable proposition. This will not involve farting about with places like LBA, MME, JER, BRU. I believe quite a number of slots will be sold with us concentrating on our more "solid" routes, probably cutting frequency on even these, alongside starting up any LH destinations they may want. The Embraers will leave LHR and IMHO we may see reduction in numbers not additions in the short term. Hopefully this can be achieved by natural wasteage but who knows. This Lufti deal may be something of a Curate's egg. Big company owns us now so better job security for those left once the cull is over.
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So guys and girls, whats the feeling? Business as usual according to BB's email. I think bmi will stay as it is with changes been seen mostly in the desk duties.
The company has a good name and reputation so no need for a rebranding, allow lufty to take some of the regional slots from LHR and there we go. Fingers crossed.
kempus
The company has a good name and reputation so no need for a rebranding, allow lufty to take some of the regional slots from LHR and there we go. Fingers crossed.
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BMIr are doing some of the bmi flights out of LHR as they dont have the capacity to do it. Have a look at the BMIr thread and its all talk about a flybe takeover. Now do you think luffty will allow those precious slots at LHR be used by a subsidiary that they may not even be interested in? It was just a question which I'm looking for an answer for so do you know what your talking about mate??
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bmir are doing mainline flights to save money, not because mainline do not have the capacity. It is grounding airframes and making them availible for charter. It is also proving more profitable than flying a third full airbus on certain flights.
As for recruitment, I would think it on hold still for a while. And there is also the bmir transfer list which hopefully will see pilots migrate to mainline.
As for the sale of bmir, that is not going to happen. If it was being prepared for sale they would not be adding airframes and pilots. The most punctual airline three years running is also a good selling point too.
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bmir are doing mainline flights to save money, not because mainline do not have the capacity. It is grounding airframes and making them availible for charter. It is also proving more profitable than flying a third full airbus on certain flights.
As for recruitment, I would think it on hold still for a while. And there is also the bmir transfer list which hopefully will see pilots migrate to mainline.
As for the sale of bmir, that is not going to happen. If it was being prepared for sale they would not be adding airframes and pilots. The most punctual airline three years running is also a good selling point too.
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Not alot Kempus, I have merely been flying for the company for more than a few years now! I know enough to realise that your analysis of the current situation is a tad innacurate.
Anyway, as said above, I would hope that those of us on the transfer list would get a look in first.
Anyway, as said above, I would hope that those of us on the transfer list would get a look in first.
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It's interesting seeing various posts stating that bmi mainline, regional and baby have difference AOC's so are technically different companies but do come under one group umbrella. I wonder if the people on the regional transfer list all had to undertake interviews and sim assessments like all the guys and girls in the current holdpool? I think all the people in the hold pool have been in it for well over a year and for some their first airline job. Why haven't current holdpool swimmers been told of this transfer list before? Personally I hope the regional transfer list doesn't get priority! However, I do have sympathy for all those affected by today's announcement and hope they can find a way to continue working for a what's hopefully going to become a world class airline.
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Sorry to tell you, but 2 started about 4 months ago and 2 more waiting for a course date. They had to go through the same process as yourself. Why do you think you should get priority when we already work for bmi?
As always I wish everyone all the best. And all the best for the Man people.
On a different note this is the start of a long journey for bmi, I hope there is not too much more pain to come.
D and F
As always I wish everyone all the best. And all the best for the Man people.
On a different note this is the start of a long journey for bmi, I hope there is not too much more pain to come.
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Under the contract between bmir and bmi regarding the transfer list, the transferees have priority for recruitment to mainline over ALL candidates except cadets from Oxford who were sponsored by bmi. This agreement predates all current recruitment by at least 4 years.
However, this need not present a problem for the current mainline pool. The limiting factor as regards transfer numbers is the number bmir can release; given the fact that bmir has more aircraft arriving and can least afford to release the experienced pilots who have reached the top of the transfer list this number will not be large.
In answer to tonyic7's somewhat snide question, the transferees have all completed interviews and sim assessments; this means that, given their experience level, they are rather more of a known quantity and therefore less of a training risk than external candidates.
However, this need not present a problem for the current mainline pool. The limiting factor as regards transfer numbers is the number bmir can release; given the fact that bmir has more aircraft arriving and can least afford to release the experienced pilots who have reached the top of the transfer list this number will not be large.
In answer to tonyic7's somewhat snide question, the transferees have all completed interviews and sim assessments; this means that, given their experience level, they are rather more of a known quantity and therefore less of a training risk than external candidates.
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I did hear about the course and as I understand, it was with 2 people from the holdpool. Is it only another 2 or are there loads of people waiting to move? I didn't say I should get priority? What I hope is that it's done on a fair basis and I would see that as being from when the individual was informed he/she had been accepted into/onto the hooldpool/transfer list. Time will tell.....
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Personally I hope the regional transfer list doesn't get priority!
I also hope that there is a fair basis for new intake into mainline. Date of joining bmi would do it for me.
The transfer list has well over 20 people on it, but the last interviews were from a management ring around based on seniority.
The release numbers from bmir were agreed by management this year with the bmir cc.
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Guys, we're overcrewed in a big way, there is no way there is going to be anymore recuitment in the foreseeable future. I fear it could be going in the opposite direction at the moment.