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looks to me, like you are closing your eyes and ears? Donīt you seee where the company is trying to steer to?
Maybe you are to often in your pub in Cardiff? (joking!)
Of course EZY is at the moment a fairly safe company to be. What is nerving, is the propaganda machine (itīs becoming a little like "Scientology") about that "better place to work", etc.
However, there are other companies which are are also settled in the economy!
Maybe not only in the UK!?
Of course, other pilots will fill the cockpit seats with EZY, when others are leaving!
Itīs everybodyīs own decision to stay or to leave!
The guys in the holding pool will love to see pilots leaving! Thatīs the aviation game!
looks to me, like you are closing your eyes and ears? Donīt you seee where the company is trying to steer to?
Maybe you are to often in your pub in Cardiff? (joking!)
Of course EZY is at the moment a fairly safe company to be. What is nerving, is the propaganda machine (itīs becoming a little like "Scientology") about that "better place to work", etc.
However, there are other companies which are are also settled in the economy!
Maybe not only in the UK!?
Of course, other pilots will fill the cockpit seats with EZY, when others are leaving!
Itīs everybodyīs own decision to stay or to leave!
The guys in the holding pool will love to see pilots leaving! Thatīs the aviation game!
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FO's are leaving due to lack of commands mainly with some of to BA having realised that low cost isn't much fun after a couple of years. Easy aspires to be Ryanair and is streets ahead of many in that race. The innovation is long gone. Just another airline with marginally better conditions than some due to union recognition. It's safe (for the forseeable) and definately not the worst (for the forseeable)
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FO's are leaving due to lack of commands mainly with some of to BA having realised that low cost isn't much fun after a couple of years.
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"Isn't that a contradiction in terms; how can you disappear from Ezy to go and sit in the LHS at BA for another 15yrs ? "
I presume you mean RHS and the reasoning is simple. The only thing keeping many SFO's at Easyjet was the potential for a quick command. As that has now gone then so will they. BA RHS is not far off Easy Captain money. Long haul may not be what it used to be but the lifestyle is still preferable to a great many than being stuck in a manky 73 or bus doing 105hrs a month. Most Easyjet commands in future will be in non-uk bases too meaning a commute as well.
I presume you mean RHS and the reasoning is simple. The only thing keeping many SFO's at Easyjet was the potential for a quick command. As that has now gone then so will they. BA RHS is not far off Easy Captain money. Long haul may not be what it used to be but the lifestyle is still preferable to a great many than being stuck in a manky 73 or bus doing 105hrs a month. Most Easyjet commands in future will be in non-uk bases too meaning a commute as well.
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Husky - I did mean RHS - finger trouble.
Yep....well lets hope that many SFOs at easy go to BA and then those coming in from the holding pool as direct entry SFOs get quick commands !!
Things go full circle in many walks of life....... !!
TJ
Yep....well lets hope that many SFOs at easy go to BA and then those coming in from the holding pool as direct entry SFOs get quick commands !!
Things go full circle in many walks of life....... !!
TJ
Taiguin, the extra planes for MXP are comming from DTM and probably BRS, so they are already crewed.
The DTM captains have the choice between MXP, LTN or redudancy...
For FO's: MXP, LTN, ORY or redundancy
The DTM captains have the choice between MXP, LTN or redudancy...
For FO's: MXP, LTN, ORY or redundancy
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TurboJ, if you are looking for a quick command forget it. I wouldn't come in with that attitude either nor cry about it when it doesn't happen. The days of quick commands in Easyjet are gone (well at least until the place is in such a mess that nobody at all wants to work for them)
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What precisely do you mean by "the days of quick command are gone"?
Once a senior F/O has the requisite 3,000 factored hours, how long is the average waiting time to get on a command course?
What are the reasons for any delay?
Once a senior F/O has the requisite 3,000 factored hours, how long is the average waiting time to get on a command course?
What are the reasons for any delay?
Husky one - "105 hours per month"
I can see how awful that would be, 8 1/2 months of work and then 3 1/2 months on full pay (obviously minus sector pay) not working.
I work at easyJet and it is a simple fact that if one month you fly 105 hours then the next (or some subsequent month) you can only fly 45 to keep your monthly average to 75. 75 x 12 = 900.
I wish our roster could allow us to fly this much and have 3 1/2 months off. This is the usual rubbish about flying 105 hours per month spouted by people who have probably not ever had to really work hard for a living.
I can see how awful that would be, 8 1/2 months of work and then 3 1/2 months on full pay (obviously minus sector pay) not working.
I work at easyJet and it is a simple fact that if one month you fly 105 hours then the next (or some subsequent month) you can only fly 45 to keep your monthly average to 75. 75 x 12 = 900.
I wish our roster could allow us to fly this much and have 3 1/2 months off. This is the usual rubbish about flying 105 hours per month spouted by people who have probably not ever had to really work hard for a living.
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Unfortunately Kraut is right, some of us are flying 100 hours a month I have 95 this month but at some point I will have to fly low hour months to balance it out so it is all relative.
flysi, what happens when an airline slows down from rapid expansion to consolidate fleet types & you have an already large amount of SFO's that have the factored hours for command? In the next 12 months the number of people having the hours & a CPI date will far out way the command courses available so the holding pool for command courses will grow quite considerably. So regardless of hours if you join as an SFO DEP then you will join the queue after you have passed the selection process so no quick DEP commands in the near future.
Once a senior F/O has the requisite 3,000 factored hours, how long is the average waiting time to get on a command course?
What are the reasons for any delay?
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It is worth noting that last year we were desperate for captains and took on direct entry Embraer captains into the LHS. It was not a total success and we simultaneously took on a number of 5000hr+ SFOs from BMI and BA who were all hoping for quick commands. These experienced SFOs are top people and were frankly significantly better than the DECs - you can imagine how agrieved they felt at the situation. Nevertheless, they believed they would get quick commands but alas most, if not all, are still waiting. Such is the game of 'Snakes and Ladders' that is the airline industry. We right now have well over 100 SFOs in the command pool awaiting courses. In addition, we have a number of others awaiting selection who have been told 'no command assessment' during the summer. Those guys will shortly find themselves competing with the ex-GB FOs who are also champing at the bit to be promoted after their Ts&Cs are resolved. I understand some sort of 'deal' is being discussed with BALPA to ensure they get their place somewhere in the queue. Taken together, anyone who joins easyJet right now hoping for a quick command is going to be sadly disappointed. There is a long queue and the signs are that there will be a significantly reduced requirement for captains next year. I am not blaming anyone for the situation, but that is nonetheless the way it is. Finally, our Lords and Masters look like they are about to try and pull a fast one in terms of cutting our pay and a big battle is looming. The cabin crew are already in it and need to wise up sharpish to what is going on - alas the signs are not good and I sincerely hope they have the backbone for a fight because they are going to need it. All in all, let the buyer beware!
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Easy jet Assessments
Hi Guys,
I wasn't 100% sure if this would be the right place to post this: but direct me elsewhere if i'm in the wrong place!
Could anyone offer me details about the assessment process which is conducted for flight deck at the EZY interview please?
Typical interview questions, typical tech questions and best place to read up on them prior, and the group excercise?
Thanks in advance,
PS. PM if you could, that would be best. Thanks!
I wasn't 100% sure if this would be the right place to post this: but direct me elsewhere if i'm in the wrong place!
Could anyone offer me details about the assessment process which is conducted for flight deck at the EZY interview please?
Typical interview questions, typical tech questions and best place to read up on them prior, and the group excercise?
Thanks in advance,
PS. PM if you could, that would be best. Thanks!
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wingandprayer - Just listen to the 'noises' right now from Head Office. Our 'senior managers' have taken a pay freeze (albeit immediately after they had received their bonuses and annual pay rise!). Fuel is expensive, our share price is low etc, etc. Cabin Crew are being forced onto a random roster pattern. Quote me on this later in the year, but I reckon it is a racing certainty that we will be threatened with either job cuts, changes to conditions or pay freezes/reductions. What we have to be really wary of is the fact that we are actually going to make a profit this year. If this is what is happening now we should be alarmed at what would happen with an actual annual loss. In short, we should not move one inch from the pay deal offered to us (RPI+0.5%). I can guarantee if fuel dropped in price by 50% and we made twice the expected profit, then tried to get more money in October, it would be a very short meeting indeed with our management. I trust that when the inevitable call to BALPA is made, it will be an equally short encounter!