EZY as a career?
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When you talk of popular/unpopular bases which are the best to be based. I'm still wavering about leaving a longhaul position because the base I get would be critical to me. Are they good to their word if they promise you a certain base? It is important to me that I'm based in Newcastle if I join... is it popular? What about command prospects?
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Sector Pay
I will be starting with EZY in April as a Direct Entry FO, and was wondering if anyone out there currently flying for them would post how much of the sector pay is taxed and on average how much do you take home a month.
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How can so many of you guys, write "reasonably good money" about the salaries at Easy?? A friend of mine told me he makes almost 5000 Euro net pr. month on a UK base as a senior F/O.
I have the same experience as him and are on the same type and are making a little more than half that amount, with a better pension though, but no health insurance included. I'm flying at a low cost/charter operator in mainland Europe.
I think the salaries in Easy seems very, very good compared to a lot of companies in Europe or am I completely wrong???
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I have the same experience as him and are on the same type and are making a little more than half that amount, with a better pension though, but no health insurance included. I'm flying at a low cost/charter operator in mainland Europe.
I think the salaries in Easy seems very, very good compared to a lot of companies in Europe or am I completely wrong???
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I think Ezy is a good place for people who want to go places (command/training), or who are tied to a certain place of work or want to be home every night and I really enjoyed flying out of NCL. You get shiny new jets to play with, a fairly stable roster, training is 1st class and everyone I've met in person (below management level anyway) has been incredibly friendly and genuine.
But you don't get somthing for nothing. As a career, don't underestimate how tough the LCC lifestyle is. It's not just the rostering (which is improving) but the whole package - the long days, pressured turn arounds, the 150 chavs in the back who all know their rights and are hard work at the best of times. You don't have much control over your day to day life ie swapping shifts, days off etc compared to other airlines I've worked for and crewing I find, with a couple of delightful exceptions, rude and obstructive. Maybe not an issue in the short-term but missing nearly every party you get invited to does piss people off year after year. Some people can let the constant barrage of Orangeness wash over them, some get really wound up by it.
LCC life is difficult to sustain long-term and there are a number of examples of normally strong and healthy people having medicals suspended/crashing cars on the way home etc who will bear me out on this. Things are changing for the better but very slowly. Ezy has never tried to be a career airline and unless you have a good reason to go I wouldn't consider it long term, but it depends what you want and whether the plusses are going to outweigh the minuses.
The exception being if you can afford to go part-time in the future - you get your flying and you have a life!
But you don't get somthing for nothing. As a career, don't underestimate how tough the LCC lifestyle is. It's not just the rostering (which is improving) but the whole package - the long days, pressured turn arounds, the 150 chavs in the back who all know their rights and are hard work at the best of times. You don't have much control over your day to day life ie swapping shifts, days off etc compared to other airlines I've worked for and crewing I find, with a couple of delightful exceptions, rude and obstructive. Maybe not an issue in the short-term but missing nearly every party you get invited to does piss people off year after year. Some people can let the constant barrage of Orangeness wash over them, some get really wound up by it.
LCC life is difficult to sustain long-term and there are a number of examples of normally strong and healthy people having medicals suspended/crashing cars on the way home etc who will bear me out on this. Things are changing for the better but very slowly. Ezy has never tried to be a career airline and unless you have a good reason to go I wouldn't consider it long term, but it depends what you want and whether the plusses are going to outweigh the minuses.
The exception being if you can afford to go part-time in the future - you get your flying and you have a life!
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As far as I know DEC's were never displacing SFO's who wanted upgrades. There were only so many SFO's eligible for command and any DEC's were "top ups". Certainly SFO's were told anyone who is eligible and passes the command assessments this year will get a command.
Last I heard was that if you joined the company you would be looked at during your first recurrent check and then could enter the process after that. It would be doubtful that you would get your command within 6 months of joining (unless they have exhausted the supply of internal SFO's eleigible for command). A year maybe more realistic, maybe longer.
Last I heard was that if you joined the company you would be looked at during your first recurrent check and then could enter the process after that. It would be doubtful that you would get your command within 6 months of joining (unless they have exhausted the supply of internal SFO's eleigible for command). A year maybe more realistic, maybe longer.
Hi everyone.
Here some easy questions for guys/girls who recently trained at easyJet:
Where does conversion training on the A319 take place for easy newhires?
And what is the length of the type rating course? Where do base training and line training take place? Is it at the assigned initial base?
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Here some easy questions for guys/girls who recently trained at easyJet:
Where does conversion training on the A319 take place for easy newhires?
And what is the length of the type rating course? Where do base training and line training take place? Is it at the assigned initial base?
Thanx
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As a former orange pilot I'll chip a penny's worth.
Is easy a good place to work? YES good folk niced jets good SOP'S good attitude to training improving roster.
Is easy a career airline? NO and will never be! And the same can be said for any of the loco's!
If your want(or have to) work for a loco then easy is about as good as it gets, however the best thing I ever did was to get out of loco operations. I know have a life outside workand have a reasonable amount of control of my roster,even in a corporate operation! Sure I don't make a s much money but i do have time to spend what I have and I've re-met a lot of old friends!
Is easy a good place to work? YES good folk niced jets good SOP'S good attitude to training improving roster.
Is easy a career airline? NO and will never be! And the same can be said for any of the loco's!
If your want(or have to) work for a loco then easy is about as good as it gets, however the best thing I ever did was to get out of loco operations. I know have a life outside workand have a reasonable amount of control of my roster,even in a corporate operation! Sure I don't make a s much money but i do have time to spend what I have and I've re-met a lot of old friends!
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i allready ask for some opinions in another thread, sorry if its repetitive for any of you, but look this is the rigth place to look for an opinion,
i´m actually a f/O with not mach seniority in iberia, nice payment, and quite a good agriment in terms of lost of licence, ( job guaranted) plus some help with private insurance, etc.
due to my age , 40. and an sliming company due to the creation of click air, i´m willing to leave, due to the opening of the madrid base i have aplied to ezy, but if im able to pass, i´will be looking to make a career, so please
tell me what can i expect from ezy, and any opinion will be wellcome
like info about coversion type, i´m a md87/88 pilot, madrid base expctations and capt promotion, thans in advance
i´m actually a f/O with not mach seniority in iberia, nice payment, and quite a good agriment in terms of lost of licence, ( job guaranted) plus some help with private insurance, etc.
due to my age , 40. and an sliming company due to the creation of click air, i´m willing to leave, due to the opening of the madrid base i have aplied to ezy, but if im able to pass, i´will be looking to make a career, so please
tell me what can i expect from ezy, and any opinion will be wellcome
like info about coversion type, i´m a md87/88 pilot, madrid base expctations and capt promotion, thans in advance
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You want to leave Iberia for easyJet ???? 
How many sectors a day do you fly at Iberia ? what's your salary ? what's the Iberia pension scheme like ?
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How many sectors a day do you fly at Iberia ? what's your salary ? what's the Iberia pension scheme like ?
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Blanza,
How about we swap jobs?
Sounds like you just want to get on the left-hand seat quick and I'd really enjoy the quiet luxurious life on a right-hand seat at Iberia!
A left-hand seat isn't everything...
How about we swap jobs?
Sounds like you just want to get on the left-hand seat quick and I'd really enjoy the quiet luxurious life on a right-hand seat at Iberia!
A left-hand seat isn't everything...
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roaster
the roaster is not that good, 70 to 80h, 6 roaster of 3 days a month, so total 18 days with 3 sector normal, depens on where you go, airbus is doing medium haul too like israel or dakar malabo moscow, and valencia or seville, 12 days a month you are overnight somewhere, which i´ts tyring, too much time away from home, money with seven year seniority its 10k or 15k below a easy capt, but growing every 2 years, pension , i dont have references,, iberia it´s the one in spain with a pension scheme. problably a 15%, sorry for not be to precise, not sure if i should give details in public, are you an easy capt? can we compare figures in private?
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iberia unions have make agreements thinkig that one day you will be a long haul capt, with my seniority and my age, i doubt seriusly if i ever be. things have to change a lot, at the monent iberia its leaving the short haul in the hands of airnostrum and clikair, but in the next 3 year we are going to have 25 planes less, means no new contracts, no wining seniority
probably a few of us are getting too nervous, and could be a big mistake, this is why i want constructive opinion and as much info as i can
thanks again
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the roaster is not that good, 70 to 80h, 6 roaster of 3 days a month, so total 18 days with 3 sector normal, depens on where you go, airbus is doing medium haul too like israel or dakar malabo moscow, and valencia or seville, 12 days a month you are overnight somewhere, which i´ts tyring, too much time away from home, money with seven year seniority its 10k or 15k below a easy capt, but growing every 2 years, pension , i dont have references,, iberia it´s the one in spain with a pension scheme. problably a 15%
Surely it will be like every other EZY base where you will do mostly 4 sector days, average about 85hrs a month over 16 days of work, get paid £46k as a SFO and get a Command within a year if you have the hours then make a 90% salary for 6 months then a full one for the rest of your career?
Which is £74k + £10k sector pay + 5/10/15% bonus + share options + 9% pension.
Please highlight the better option.
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Which is £74k + £10k sector pay + 5/10/15% bonus + share options + 9% pension.
Please highlight the better option.
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Not withstanding the above, the recent disruption caused by fog in the UK has accidently revealed that ezy crewing is actually a call centre based in Mumbai and it is run by people who do not seem to have a clue about how to manage personnel!
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Blanza, I was told EZY Madrid will be 21 working days and only 10 OFF per month, up to six sectors a day if you do the domnestics, otherwise 3 or 4. You will have months of 100 hrs.You will have to start as an F/O for at least a year, during which your salary will be a lot lower than Iberia. The first six months as a captain are on a lower salary as well. No company pension nor loss of licence. As you are not airbus rated you will be bonded. The choice is yours, but think twice.
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Just for the record EZY does have loss of licence and a money purchase pension where they contribute 9% (isn't that better than BA for new joiners?). The roster is fixed 5/3/5/4 so you can do the math regarding days off. Three sector days must be very unusual as there are very few nightstops. 100 hour months also means that you will run out of hours at some point in the year...
I still would not leave Iberia though. First there is no guarantee that you will have a command in Madrid. Are you prepared to move to Latvia (or wherever) to get that command? secondly EZY is a UK company and if it suits them at some point in the next 20 years they will move out of Spain, Iberia is obviously not going to do that. Thirdly although things are tough at Iberia, because the erosion of terms and conditions, the reality is that they are still much better than elsewhere; you may be in for a culture shock. Lastly in Iberia you can look forward to a mix of long/short haul and flying different types, variety throughout your career in other words.
Perhaps you can ask for unpaid leave from Iberia so you can still return if you don't like the taste of the grass on the other side of the river.
In any case good luck
I still would not leave Iberia though. First there is no guarantee that you will have a command in Madrid. Are you prepared to move to Latvia (or wherever) to get that command? secondly EZY is a UK company and if it suits them at some point in the next 20 years they will move out of Spain, Iberia is obviously not going to do that. Thirdly although things are tough at Iberia, because the erosion of terms and conditions, the reality is that they are still much better than elsewhere; you may be in for a culture shock. Lastly in Iberia you can look forward to a mix of long/short haul and flying different types, variety throughout your career in other words.
Perhaps you can ask for unpaid leave from Iberia so you can still return if you don't like the taste of the grass on the other side of the river.
In any case good luck
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[QUOTE=calypso;3032937]Just for the record EZY does have loss of licence and a money purchase pension where they contribute 9%
This is not quite correct. Terms and conditions for (finally, after 6 month) MADRID based pilots are different!
For the time being there is no pension pay for MAD based pilots, and no loss of licence (up to now!)
And the percentage of UK contract pilots is UP to 9%, depending on the individual decision. Definitly you get 7 % on an UK contract.
My opinion, BLANZA,
think at least twice, before giving up IBERIA.
This is not quite correct. Terms and conditions for (finally, after 6 month) MADRID based pilots are different!
For the time being there is no pension pay for MAD based pilots, and no loss of licence (up to now!)
And the percentage of UK contract pilots is UP to 9%, depending on the individual decision. Definitly you get 7 % on an UK contract.
My opinion, BLANZA,
think at least twice, before giving up IBERIA.
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Three sector days must be very unusual as there are very few nightstops