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Old 5th Dec 2006, 10:37
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EZY as a career?

I know a lot of people blast EZY for a variety of things, but I would be interested to hear of people who are there and are happy to stay. What is it about EZY that you like, and why aren't you looking for a new job?
I am thinking about applying but I want somewhere I can stay and settle in rather than a job that I will use to build hours to go somewhere else.
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Old 5th Dec 2006, 15:52
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They pay reasonably but let down by poor pension, no health care etc. The main reason for staying is if you get the base you want. Whatever that base is hope it's an airbus base. You don't want on the 73. The rostering is crap but the union seems to slowly be making progress there. Probably the best of the LCC's and quick command prospects too. The question is do you want to work for an LCC?
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Old 5th Dec 2006, 17:19
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Rostering is not crap, its just for a change Pilots are having to work fairly hard for a living, something they are clearly not used to. On another thread Pilot Pete who works for TFLY states how hard he is (not) working, 3 flights in Nov, loads
of time off, day off pay at £500+, and time for his business on the side and to see the kids. Thats what all Pilots want really?. How can you justify paying 90k for doing nothing.
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Originally Posted by Banzai Eagle
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Rostering is not crap, its just for a change Pilots are having to work fairly hard for a living, something they are clearly not used to.
If I run my scheduling through SAFE then all I see is red....how would you like to have 7 days on including a PRG-TLV-PRG redeye starting at midnight local, get back just in time for lunch, then have to endure the psychotic neighbours with the DIY penchant for jackhammering furniture all day. After you fall asleep and wake up at 8 pm all 'refreshed' then you find out that you've got a 0600 briefing for a morning BRU, AMS or CPH. So go to sleep? Or wonder around poking at things till 0300 when you finally drift off only to be awakened an hour and a half later? Some of us have it good some of us not so good, I wouldn't throw all pilots in the same bag, perhaps the example you are using is abnormal but it begs the question for how long? And also, it could be the result of not being around the whole summer putting in the 100+ flight hours a month while the unwashed masses vacation.
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SAFE?

Sorry to interupt... What is SAFE? Is this some kind of fatigue checker? Is it available to public?

Would like to run my roster for a check...

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Old 5th Dec 2006, 19:33
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Hi Hufty!!


Why do I like easyJet??

I am now at the base where I want to be...which has raised my happiness level by about 200%, and please keep in mind that there are different issues at all bases.

But what keeps me in easy is:

- The reasonably good money
- The fact that you are home every day
- No night flying
- Overall attitude of the crew and the casual/relaxed attitude in the company
- Well-maintained new aircrafts
- The fact that while terms and conditions in many companies are on a downhill slope, they seem to be going uphill in easy.

Yes, we do fly a lot!! But I am not really sure the grass is greener on the other side.
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Life at EZY is geting better. Rosters are fixed at 5/3/5/4 for winter and, subject to a vote, will be 5/3/5/4 for summer 07. Money is pretty good £85k+ for a Captain. Pension could be better (9% if don't opt for taking 2% out to salary in last pay review). Medical benefits would be welcome.....

It does appear that there is now a constructive dialogue going on between BALPA and the Company. They are working together and taking a realistic view - a sea change to 18 months ago. The new CEO realises that you simply cannot afford to keep losing pilots at the rate we were last year. Having had a 1 to 1 with him recently, he is determined to get the crew establishment correct. This will not only improve lifestyle for pilots but will also prevent a repeat of this summers sub-chartering. In recognition of this summers difficulties, ALL staff were given 2 weeks basic salary worth of shares - again, unheard of under the "old" regime.

If you can get to your base of choice, then I think EZY is probably one of the best / most secure / friendly / dynamic / opportunity filled / progressive options available.

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Old 5th Dec 2006, 22:54
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Originally Posted by Banzai Eagle
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Rostering is not crap, its just for a change Pilots are having to work fairly hard for a living, something they are clearly not used to.

as it's Panto season, let me kick off..
Oh Yes It Is...
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Rostering has been poor in the past, and depending on your base, can still be quite poor. The positive thing is that rostering and other lifestyle issues have improved and continue to improve under the new CEO and his team. It really is a different company with fresh management - and it shows.

We do work long days, though at my base we have a mixture of 2 and 4 sector days from about 5-6 hours duty to 11 hours. I rarely see roster changes and my standbys are becoming more and more like days off. Crewing levels at sought after bases are settling down.

The new CEO has a business philosophy of treating people well. And look at our year end results - it works!

Operationally the company has a good reputation for safety and standards, and the effort made to maintain this reputation is considerable.

As others have pointed out: my roster patterns rarely has me working more than half the month, I'm home every night, work with great people and get to fly new aircraft around Europe. The pay is as good as anywhere else - unless you're a long serving FO and BA - and command time is short. It's also one of the most secure jobs around too.

TFly may have good T&Cs right now, but at some point the parent company is going to realise that future growth and security is going to come only through seeking better value out from its assets.

There are some here who have put up with so much nonsense over the years that improvements are hard to recognise, and trust hard to accept. I've been here a few years and, whilst others will disagree, if you want to fly short haul around Europe then this is as good as anywhere, and better than many.

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Great people, great equipment, great routes.

My rostering has NEVER (six years) been crap, and I havent had a roster change in almost two months. For a lot of people, it is VERY stable, and the pattern improvements will only make it better!

Dont listen so much to the moaners, as I believe, it is too long since they sampled random rostering, as is the case in most other airlines....

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...and you don't wear a cap!

Surely good rostering on modern aircraft (2.2 years old) home everynight working only 10 days in every 17, on good money has to be considered to be a good job right now.

The CC are proposing a points based loyalty system so that you can buy bupa/lol/childcare vouchers etc and tailor the package exactly how you want.

The CEO has said that he wants to have bases all over europe. To quote "you don't bother sticking a couple of airbus in MAD if you dont want bases all over spain."

It is going to be big. Really big.

The future is entirely bright under Harrison and having carefully considered leaving twice I can say there is nowehere else worth going to.
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 09:00
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Thanks for all the feedback and the PMs. I'm very happy where I am but I would like a little more security. I don't want to keep moving about so want somewhere I can settle into and stay hence the question! So we'll see what happens now!

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Forgive me if this is a bone question:

Standby days, what is the deal? is the 5-3-5-4 roster counting the days off as standby or not? Or are standby days instead of working days: ie you should expect to work them and if you don't it's a bonus.

As someone who might be working for easy in the not too distant future I think they are a pretty good company with good prospects which is definitely one of the most secure options around.
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A standby day must occur within your rostered working days. E.g:

On-On-On-Standby-On

Off Off Off

Standby On On On On

Off Off Off Off
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I worked for easy for about 2 years and couldn't cope with the schedule. It is punishing.

I now believe that whatever Airline you work for you will fly 900 hours per year. While I was at Easy I didn't believe that, hence the reason why I moved.

However my move was well worth it. The benefits at easy jet tend not to be as good as other Low cost operators.(Excluding the likes of Jet 2) No private health care and over the year not that many days off. Easy is OK when your looking for a start within an Airline just don't stay too long.

Just as a comparison I now get 190 days off per year. At Easy its 137!! (Contractual)

Oh and the staff travel is OK if you think the world ends at South Spain.
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NOW, in EZy you work 196 days a year (that means you get 169 days off including leaves etc..).
You donot get staff travel on other airlines but you get it on the U2 network (and it doesn't end in South Spain)..
We have 17 bases now expanding and yeas we fly close to 900 hrs a year, but do you really think we are the only ones..
We get ok money and the conditions are improving, we will have to hire about 200 pilots for 2007 (i think it's more but not sure so I stop at 200) and the company now realises the conditions have to improve to atract more crew and I think they are improving and they will.
I love it...
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Originally Posted by Speevy
You donot get staff travel on other airlines but you get it on the U2 network (and it doesn't end in South Spain)..
U2 network ? slightly off the subject but can u explain what it is ?
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U2 is the 2 letter code for Ezyjet
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 12:14
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We get ok money and the conditions are improving, we will have to hire about 200 pilots for 2007 (i think it's more but not sure so I stop at 200) and the company now realises the conditions have to improve to atract more crew and I think they are improving and they will.
I love it...
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2007 recruitment is 450-500 pilots ......

Yes you do work at EZY. I did 820 hours last year.... but it's not as onerous as some people make out. The 5/3/5/4 fixed roster is a significant improvement and I think it's closer to 180 days off per year. My colleagues who work in the "real world" - 9 to 5 - acknowledge that I do have some early starts and late finishes but are quite envious of me having alternate 3 and 4 day "weekends".

It's personal choice. I'm not interested in long haul - young family and I like being at home every night. Personnaly I couldn't imagine doing 4 trans-atlantics per month - I'm sure the novelty would soon wear off - but that's only MY opinion before I get jumped on!

EZY is a dynamic company, expanding at a sensible rate, offering almost unparalleled opportunites. New bases opening across Europe, potentially rapid Command prospects, a very high standard of operation demanded - and met. Anyone considering joining could do MUCH worse.

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You constantly hear about new bases but how about brand new routes from the existing big bases, i.e. LTN, STN and LGW ? Any on the cards?
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