GSS (Global Supply Systems) Pay etc?
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Yes GSS do promote their own F/O's.
The scope agreement allows for a percentage of commands to go to BA secondees because GSS operate BA freighter services.
I fail to see how this is
The scope agreement allows for a percentage of commands to go to BA secondees because GSS operate BA freighter services.
I fail to see how this is
the ba problem
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Why thank you for raising the tone of this thread Mr. Jet.
What you clearly fail to recognise is that without the BA contract there wouldn't be any work for GSS - thus no commands at all.
I don't particularly like the system in place either, and would much rather have BA operate their own freighter fleet while allowing GSS to grow it's business separately, but the current arrangement seems to suit the upper levels at both organisations. GSS get the franchise work while BA save on operating their own services.
If you feel so strongly against this convenient little set-up why no try writing to BA, GSS and BALPA and sharing your viewpoint with those who decided upon it?
Maybe even write to the CAA who ultimately approve the C of A for each of the 744F's??
Just be sure to refrain from such language if you want any of them to take your gripe seriously
What you clearly fail to recognise is that without the BA contract there wouldn't be any work for GSS - thus no commands at all.
I don't particularly like the system in place either, and would much rather have BA operate their own freighter fleet while allowing GSS to grow it's business separately, but the current arrangement seems to suit the upper levels at both organisations. GSS get the franchise work while BA save on operating their own services.
If you feel so strongly against this convenient little set-up why no try writing to BA, GSS and BALPA and sharing your viewpoint with those who decided upon it?
Maybe even write to the CAA who ultimately approve the C of A for each of the 744F's??
Just be sure to refrain from such language if you want any of them to take your gripe seriously
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To try to answer the original question with facts not gossip.
Starting pay for an F/O £ 38, 720. approx 4% increment increase each year.
Per Deims £ 2.00 per hour (tax free) from on duty time at Stansted till return to Stansted.
Company will contribute 5% to pension IF you contribute at least 5%. The company 5% will not vary even if you put 15% in.
Company provide Loss of licence, Medical, Critical illness and Death in service insurances.
20 days leave per year plus an additional 8 days for Bank Holidays.
Rostered for 18 days per month including standbys. No bidding system. Longest trip is 11 days away from base.
Standby requires crew to be within 4 hours of Stansted. Does not seem to apply to non UK based pilots.
Approx 350 - 500 flying hours per year.
Due to the over 60's ruling it is unlikly that there will be any upgrades for youngish F/O's for some considerable time as there are about 9 F/O's that are over 60 waiting to get back to the left seat. All of whom are ahead of the younger F/O's.
Since June last year 21 pilots have left GSS, only 3 of which have retired, all others have moved to other companies.
GSS employs approx 105 pilots (including BA secondees).
CC
Starting pay for an F/O £ 38, 720. approx 4% increment increase each year.
Per Deims £ 2.00 per hour (tax free) from on duty time at Stansted till return to Stansted.
Company will contribute 5% to pension IF you contribute at least 5%. The company 5% will not vary even if you put 15% in.
Company provide Loss of licence, Medical, Critical illness and Death in service insurances.
20 days leave per year plus an additional 8 days for Bank Holidays.
Rostered for 18 days per month including standbys. No bidding system. Longest trip is 11 days away from base.
Standby requires crew to be within 4 hours of Stansted. Does not seem to apply to non UK based pilots.
Approx 350 - 500 flying hours per year.
Due to the over 60's ruling it is unlikly that there will be any upgrades for youngish F/O's for some considerable time as there are about 9 F/O's that are over 60 waiting to get back to the left seat. All of whom are ahead of the younger F/O's.
Since June last year 21 pilots have left GSS, only 3 of which have retired, all others have moved to other companies.
GSS employs approx 105 pilots (including BA secondees).
CC
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The bond is for £25,000 and is over 5 years decreasing annually unless you leave within the first two years in which case the full amount is payable.
But, some of the recent leavers have had their last months salary withheld " in lieu of monies owed to GSS". This could be viewed as the bond being cleared by payment of approx £3200.
The secondment agreement is for BA first officers to have 2/3 rds of all new commands at GSS until they have 50% of the total. After that it will be split 50 / 50. If the tie up with Flyme actually takes place then the extra commands generated will not count towards this BA figure.
CC
But, some of the recent leavers have had their last months salary withheld " in lieu of monies owed to GSS". This could be viewed as the bond being cleared by payment of approx £3200.
The secondment agreement is for BA first officers to have 2/3 rds of all new commands at GSS until they have 50% of the total. After that it will be split 50 / 50. If the tie up with Flyme actually takes place then the extra commands generated will not count towards this BA figure.
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If the tie up with Flyme actually takes place then the extra commands generated will not count towards this BA figure.
They ain't getting the ex ANA 744s, thats for sure - They've already been bought.
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I have no idea if the FlyMe deal will go ahead or not, and as GSS crew no longer get issued hats I will not be able to follow your example. But if it does, then Atlas will be supplying the aircraft not FlyMe.
Rumour has it that Atlas have 2 passenger -400's in the desert waiting for slots to convert them to freighters. IF the FlyMe thing goes ahead it is those that would get used as they would be able to generate some money for Atlas instead of sitting idle for a while.
CC
I have no idea if the FlyMe deal will go ahead or not, and as GSS crew no longer get issued hats I will not be able to follow your example. But if it does, then Atlas will be supplying the aircraft not FlyMe.
Rumour has it that Atlas have 2 passenger -400's in the desert waiting for slots to convert them to freighters. IF the FlyMe thing goes ahead it is those that would get used as they would be able to generate some money for Atlas instead of sitting idle for a while.
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As for the FlyMe deal, well,... go to the Nordic forum and read the thread about them... (though you may not understand the language, the last 3 lines are in English and very interesting regarding the potential cooperation with GSS.....) Brace brace!... 
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GSS recruitment
Hi Guys.
Have been called for an interview with GSS based in Stansted but have found info about their recruitment process pretty hard to come by. Would anyone have any info about the format of their recruitment day - assume it's an interview and if successful a sim check. Any info would be great if anyone else has been called.
Cheers
skyblue
Have been called for an interview with GSS based in Stansted but have found info about their recruitment process pretty hard to come by. Would anyone have any info about the format of their recruitment day - assume it's an interview and if successful a sim check. Any info would be great if anyone else has been called.
Cheers
skyblue
I was interviewd for their initial recruitment in 2002. It was under half an hour, no difficult questions. But I was type rated on the 744 and its probably changed by now. You would get more response if you asked this question on the freight dogs forum as I doubt the GSS guys would be reading this. Do a search and you will find more on the company.
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My experience with GSS and advice to anyone who meets the 'minimums'
I visited their website and note that they were looking for f/os I met their minimums so I applied knowing my chances would be slim, then a week later I saw their ad in Flight which saw my chance diminish even more.
I thought I would follow up my application with a phone call. I managed to speak to a chap who was very accomodating and willing to talk to me, as I am just finding my feet here un the UK he gave me some good info. Then he basicaly told me that I had about as much chance as doing a **** from Tower Bridge into a tea cup placed on a moving boat! That means that I didnt have much chance!
Anyway it sounded like they had loads of applicants with thousands of jet hours. It might save them some reading time if they just put up their minimums a bit.
To all those lucky enough to get a look in congrats and enjoy. BTW 38 720 sounds damn good to me, its 38720 more than I am getting now
I visited their website and note that they were looking for f/os I met their minimums so I applied knowing my chances would be slim, then a week later I saw their ad in Flight which saw my chance diminish even more.
I thought I would follow up my application with a phone call. I managed to speak to a chap who was very accomodating and willing to talk to me, as I am just finding my feet here un the UK he gave me some good info. Then he basicaly told me that I had about as much chance as doing a **** from Tower Bridge into a tea cup placed on a moving boat! That means that I didnt have much chance!
Anyway it sounded like they had loads of applicants with thousands of jet hours. It might save them some reading time if they just put up their minimums a bit.
To all those lucky enough to get a look in congrats and enjoy. BTW 38 720 sounds damn good to me, its 38720 more than I am getting now
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Skyblue- Interview is fairly standard. Expect 3 x management bods on the panel. Normally a pilot, the ops manager and an other. Variety of Q,S but not designed to trip you up. They are basically looking to see if you are the type of Pilot that would fit in with their long haul cargo operation.
A lot of GSS Co Pilots are leaving, so before you sign anything ask yourself why!!! There is plenty of information to be found on previous threads. Good luck with the interview.
Ex- CAL -a -BA
A lot of GSS Co Pilots are leaving, so before you sign anything ask yourself why!!! There is plenty of information to be found on previous threads. Good luck with the interview.
Ex- CAL -a -BA
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FlyMe deal
FlyMe Europe's shareholder assembly has yesterday approved a joint venture with GSS. Important to know is that FlyMe Europe is an investment company, and not the airline which is FlyMe Sweden AB.
That means that the joint venture will not directly be FlyMe Swedens business.
The project is to fly from April 2008 with two 747-400's low cost long range, in winter from Sweden to Asia, and in Summer, from apparently the UK to the US. They want to use the brand name FlyMe.
But right now there is a problem with 30 Mio SEK (3 Mio EUR) in shares which are not covered. Why the main investor, Christer Ager Hansson signed for them, and is not coming up with the money is unknown. The money should have been paid in yesterday according to the rules of that emission.
FlyMe airline should reach profitability in the second quarter, but with all this turbulence around the investors, it will be difficult to keep the booking figures up as planned...
That means that the joint venture will not directly be FlyMe Swedens business.
The project is to fly from April 2008 with two 747-400's low cost long range, in winter from Sweden to Asia, and in Summer, from apparently the UK to the US. They want to use the brand name FlyMe.
But right now there is a problem with 30 Mio SEK (3 Mio EUR) in shares which are not covered. Why the main investor, Christer Ager Hansson signed for them, and is not coming up with the money is unknown. The money should have been paid in yesterday according to the rules of that emission.
FlyMe airline should reach profitability in the second quarter, but with all this turbulence around the investors, it will be difficult to keep the booking figures up as planned...
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Press release Fly Me Sweden AB
Gothenburg, March 2, 2007
The low fare airline Fly Me Sweden AB intends to file for bankruptcy
Fly Me Sweden AB’s ticket sales is to 95 percent made on the website with various payment cards. The bank handling these transactions has presently more than MSEK 60 on blocked accounts as security for claimed payment responsibility to, among others, the consumers and others having paid for journeys not yet made.
The bank has informed the board for Fly Me Sweden AB that they don’t intend to continue ticket sales from 11 am, March 2, 2007, unless the parent company Fly Me Europe AB can demonstrate payment of the remaining amount of the rights issue and that they consequently have been able to close the present rights issue.
The board of Fly Me Europe AB has announced to the board of Fly Me Sweden AB that they haven’t been able to close the rights issue yet, and that they haven’t got any objective proof that the payment will be made in a way so that the rights issue can be closed within the deadline set by the bank.And therefore, the board of Fly Me Sweden AB has decided with immediate effect to seize the ticket sales and to suspend all flights, leaving all aircrafts on their home bases.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB intends, as soon as possible, to file for bankruptcy.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB wants to extend its gratitude to the new management and all FlyMe staff, who with great dedication in a short while has been able to position this young company to profitable operation this year.
Finally, we are sorry for all inconvenience caused to persons who will not be able to travel as planned with FlyMe.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB
Gothenburg, March 2, 2007
Thats all very strange???
Gothenburg, March 2, 2007
The low fare airline Fly Me Sweden AB intends to file for bankruptcy
Fly Me Sweden AB’s ticket sales is to 95 percent made on the website with various payment cards. The bank handling these transactions has presently more than MSEK 60 on blocked accounts as security for claimed payment responsibility to, among others, the consumers and others having paid for journeys not yet made.
The bank has informed the board for Fly Me Sweden AB that they don’t intend to continue ticket sales from 11 am, March 2, 2007, unless the parent company Fly Me Europe AB can demonstrate payment of the remaining amount of the rights issue and that they consequently have been able to close the present rights issue.
The board of Fly Me Europe AB has announced to the board of Fly Me Sweden AB that they haven’t been able to close the rights issue yet, and that they haven’t got any objective proof that the payment will be made in a way so that the rights issue can be closed within the deadline set by the bank.And therefore, the board of Fly Me Sweden AB has decided with immediate effect to seize the ticket sales and to suspend all flights, leaving all aircrafts on their home bases.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB intends, as soon as possible, to file for bankruptcy.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB wants to extend its gratitude to the new management and all FlyMe staff, who with great dedication in a short while has been able to position this young company to profitable operation this year.
Finally, we are sorry for all inconvenience caused to persons who will not be able to travel as planned with FlyMe.
The board of Fly Me Sweden AB
Gothenburg, March 2, 2007
Thats all very strange???
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yep
So he didn't pay. The question is now if the 40 Mio SEK (4 Mio EUR) that the GSS joint venture should get will still be transferred.
The Investmentcompany FlyMe Europe is not bankrupt, lot's of work for the courts I guess...
The Investmentcompany FlyMe Europe is not bankrupt, lot's of work for the courts I guess...
