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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 10:36
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GSS (Global Supply Systems) Pay etc?

Does anyone know the Captains starting pay with GSS?

Also ...
Allowances ?
Typical UK take home?
Days off per/month ?
Standard of Hotels?
Routes?
How much positioning?
Leave?

Is it true their is no salary until final line check passed?

Thanks
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GSS doesn't hire Direct Entry Captains. Apart from the guys seconded from BA, all promotions are internal.

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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 10:50
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I know ... I'm BA !
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Then don't expect many helpful replies from the F/Os!
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No Blues,

FOAC have the info you seek!

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No Blues - You will have no mates down route. Loanly life if only two crew:
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If HE doesn't have any "mates down route", and it's only two crew. Then neither will his co have any mates.

So it's dinner for one, for two then!

Are GSS co-pilots really so pathetic?

PS. Try getting yourself a decent spellchecker!
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It will be interesting to see what happens to the secondees when GSS start flying the passenger -400 for another company as is being talked about.

Whilst I'm sure our management will want the secondees to operate them, its not BA work so at least there might be some command slots for GSS f/o's. If there are any left by then.
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747-400 pax.

Hello Classic Crew,

Do you know which company they will be operating the -400 pax. flights for?

First I have heard about this venture.....

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4468 - looks like I have touched a nerve. Could not speak for GSS co-pilots - pathetic !!
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I too left GSS and have to say had the pleasure of meeting a lot of good people including the BA guys on secondment but at the end of the day when it all came out in the wash as to how the secondment issue was handeled by "yours aye" the crocodile tears were the last straw and history seems to be repeating itself again
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No Blues - You will have no mates down route
That's alright - he doesn't have any mates at home either
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Old 6th Dec 2006, 21:25
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Anyone going to answer the original question?
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I was hoping to avoid the FO/GSS command debate here! I do feel very sorry for them but its not me who has made the rules .....

banana head - Thanks got the stuff from FOAC ...

Re. Secondees for >3yrs ... even if they were strict about that under the BALPA/BA scope agreement they would just be replaced by more of the same .. in many ways you cant blame GSS management for wanting to hang onto people they know and are a known quantity.

Anyone care to comment on lifestyle/rosters etc?
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Hi I can see that GSS are looking for pilots in FI - did a check on PPJN - seems last update is from 2005 - any news on T and C to share. Thanks.
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I did a search, it appears to be a good job but with a few negatives (as with all companies):
Apparently the basic is quite low: (rumoured)£38k with £2 duty pay. Also, from what i read a rather solitary lifestyle and alot of positioning on long haul flights. Then there is the well documented BA secondee problem, so a long time to upgrade - if any upgrade at all.
Oh, and no staff travel
I hope this list doesn't get any longer.....
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I suspect Oasis have taken quite a few GSS F/Os. Oasis are a LCO, but their pay starts at GBP 50K with reasonable command prospects. GSS will soon learn that they can't pay peanuts and expect anyone but the monkeys to stay in the current climate. And having to advertise for non-type rated pilots for a 744 operation in Flight speaks volumes!
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Old 21st Jan 2007, 07:02
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Hi and tanks for the reply. It seems like T and C are pretty much the same as last time they where hiring. Even that I am qualified - according to FI add - I am not going to. To few days of at homebase etc .... long list with not so nice things. Thanks again.
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Dan Winterland - Yes you are right almost 25% of the First Officers at GSS have either left or resigned in the past few months and many more reconsidering their future following a very late announcement by management a week ago.

Quote from Flight International: "Global Supply Systems is an expanding cargo operator flying to world wide destinations" - Fact they are NOT expanding, they operate 3 x 744F's and have done so for the past 4 years. Any expansion will be dictated by the renewal of a contract with BA world cargo, which to date expires in July 2007.

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Old 26th Jan 2007, 10:11
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Could anyone expand on what the roster is like, typical days off in a month and time spent off at home, hours flown in a year? Would appreciate it,. Thanks.
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