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Back in the day when new recruits were made to work for a living flying ancient F27's or if you were really lucky even more ancient Electra's we were getting just 3-500hrs per year and you were glad of that. Your hrs will build in good time and with that will come experience. Enjoy the 737 and the lifestyle. I only had my ATPL unfreeze last year after 3 years flying here so chill out and start learning the ATPL is not the B all and end all of life I assure you!
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Back in the day when new recruits were made to work for a living flying ancient F27's or if you were really lucky even more ancient Electra's we were getting just 3-500hrs per year and you were glad of that. Your hrs will build in good time and with that will come experience. Enjoy the 737 and the lifestyle. I only had my ATPL unfreeze last year after 3 years flying here so chill out and start learning the ATPL is not the B all and end all of life I assure you!
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Hear hear, Box! If I were a young lad in the right seat of a 737 I'd be right chipper no mistake. Just enjoy it and remember how badly you wanted to be where you are right now. You've made it on to the ladder, so relax, the progression will come!
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Back in the F27/Electra days there were no other jobs.
Given that the whole industry is facing a shortage of pilots, does one:
Enjoy the life style, chill out, go the parties and listen to the bull,
or
Get a job with an airline with a proper seniority and promotion policy and decent pay; and be busy enough to ensure that when the call for command does come, you don't get chucked off the command course because you don't have enough hours? As has happened to some FO's on command courses recently.
It is not PC to state, I know: That the opportunities available to the aspiring FO are probably linked to the aptitude and intelligence of the individual concerned.
Given that the whole industry is facing a shortage of pilots, does one:
Enjoy the life style, chill out, go the parties and listen to the bull,
or
Get a job with an airline with a proper seniority and promotion policy and decent pay; and be busy enough to ensure that when the call for command does come, you don't get chucked off the command course because you don't have enough hours? As has happened to some FO's on command courses recently.
It is not PC to state, I know: That the opportunities available to the aspiring FO are probably linked to the aptitude and intelligence of the individual concerned.
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Hey, BJ99
No wonder you're so slim if you keep getting 6 days of the trots
Give me the easier life, the hours come steadily enough, it's just a shame that they really don't give us enough beer tokens.
JFP
No wonder you're so slim if you keep getting 6 days of the trots
Give me the easier life, the hours come steadily enough, it's just a shame that they really don't give us enough beer tokens.
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Where's this alleged up-and-running Jet2 forum chaps?? Do you mean the MSN group? Can't find owt on PPRuNE. Maybe just braindead after getting home at 3 o'clock (am) on first day off and bracing to drive back on my last day off for an 0550 somewhere kak.
I am told that at the base captains' meeting last week there was no interest or even belief in our general pissed-offness with rostering.
I am told that at the base captains' meeting last week there was no interest or even belief in our general pissed-offness with rostering.
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Luddite and others, the Jet2 forum is not on Pprune. The Mods were too busy to arrange it for us.
The address is coming out on Company advisory soon or call me.
note no 'www.
Real names only so think twice before you post anything.
The address is coming out on Company advisory soon or call me.
note no 'www.
Real names only so think twice before you post anything.
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It’s Real names, to give it some credibility. If it's not worth saying face to face it’s probably not worth saying.
There is always the option of PM to someone who is bigger or braver than yourself to pass your message on. The current fleet Rep and a few others are willing to do this.
So far there is a positive response from all sides, it is only a means of communication, but at least you know who you're talking too.
The questions asked so far have been answered.
There is always the option of PM to someone who is bigger or braver than yourself to pass your message on. The current fleet Rep and a few others are willing to do this.
So far there is a positive response from all sides, it is only a means of communication, but at least you know who you're talking too.
The questions asked so far have been answered.
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Boeingmann sorry missed your question
I think very wishful thinking (e.g. telling you what you want to hear)
The Lba base will never work due to bad commercial scheduling, with no thought about crew patterns or utilization. Personally I think the Man base works (but I guess you dont). If you start on a early you finish on a early (5 consec) with the bonus of a rest day before you start extra to your 10 days off. Which usually means if you start on a late you finish on a late (downside).
Again Lba is a very different animal no consec early options and alot of tight crew utilization and poor aircraft planning, which equals a very unstable roster. Luddite I have simpathy with you but not living close to your base does not help your cause.
Anyway now is the time for you to put your views forward as come dec you will be working from a virtually cleans slate rostering wise. Then you might just realise how good life was!!!
Bartelby
I think very wishful thinking (e.g. telling you what you want to hear)
The Lba base will never work due to bad commercial scheduling, with no thought about crew patterns or utilization. Personally I think the Man base works (but I guess you dont). If you start on a early you finish on a early (5 consec) with the bonus of a rest day before you start extra to your 10 days off. Which usually means if you start on a late you finish on a late (downside).
Again Lba is a very different animal no consec early options and alot of tight crew utilization and poor aircraft planning, which equals a very unstable roster. Luddite I have simpathy with you but not living close to your base does not help your cause.
Anyway now is the time for you to put your views forward as come dec you will be working from a virtually cleans slate rostering wise. Then you might just realise how good life was!!!
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Please don't think I have any personal gripe with with you guys, I know you do the best you can with what you've got. I'm just annoyed that 'they' put out this propaganda about new improved rostering and then don't deliver. For whatever reason.
And no, living here doesn't make for an easy life (doesn't make for ANY life), yes I accept it's my choice, but the main reason I live here is because I was stupid enough to move for an airline and I don't intend making that mistake again.
December will indeed be interesting(?) I wish those of you who are electing to stay put down south with your homes and families well with whatever comes next.
Please don't think I have any personal gripe with with you guys, I know you do the best you can with what you've got. I'm just annoyed that 'they' put out this propaganda about new improved rostering and then don't deliver. For whatever reason.
And no, living here doesn't make for an easy life (doesn't make for ANY life), yes I accept it's my choice, but the main reason I live here is because I was stupid enough to move for an airline and I don't intend making that mistake again.
December will indeed be interesting(?) I wish those of you who are electing to stay put down south with your homes and families well with whatever comes next.
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