Monarch Interview
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ocho gardena,
Interview is the only stage normally, no sim rides or tests in the past. Only three pilot bases in the company LTN, LGW & MAN. As has been said previously your fleet and base will very much dictate your working pattern. If your A320 rated you can expect a busy roster year round especially at MAN. As RHINO wrote the new F/O scale starts on 39k rising to 45k after 10years. The new Captain scale that will apply to new pilots when they get commands starts on 64k and rises to 77k.
Flt allowances very much depend on base and fleet. On average if you're busy expect around £250-£300 per month if your flying is out of your home base, more if on voyage to other bases (if you're on the A320 up north this will not happen!)
No sector pay.
Interview is the only stage normally, no sim rides or tests in the past. Only three pilot bases in the company LTN, LGW & MAN. As has been said previously your fleet and base will very much dictate your working pattern. If your A320 rated you can expect a busy roster year round especially at MAN. As RHINO wrote the new F/O scale starts on 39k rising to 45k after 10years. The new Captain scale that will apply to new pilots when they get commands starts on 64k and rises to 77k.
Flt allowances very much depend on base and fleet. On average if you're busy expect around £250-£300 per month if your flying is out of your home base, more if on voyage to other bases (if you're on the A320 up north this will not happen!)
No sector pay.
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Hey Sick,
Will your friend take the position with Monarch? Why would he want to leave Easy with all of its growth? Sounds like FO pay at Monarch for the next 10 years is pittiful (up to 45K with no sector pay)...
I suppose getting cross-qualified on the A330 and flying to some interesting resort destinations could partially make up for the cr@p pay...
Will your friend take the position with Monarch? Why would he want to leave Easy with all of its growth? Sounds like FO pay at Monarch for the next 10 years is pittiful (up to 45K with no sector pay)...
I suppose getting cross-qualified on the A330 and flying to some interesting resort destinations could partially make up for the cr@p pay...
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Having already been to Monarch for my informal chat and reading a previous post reference offers been made I am assuming that I have not been successful.
Has anyone else that is currently 757/767 rated been for an interview and if so when and have you heard anything yet.
Has anyone else that is currently 757/767 rated been for an interview and if so when and have you heard anything yet.
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I can remember when Monarch was THE charter company to work for. Amazing how things have changed. Very short sighted of the management and will end up costing them more in the long run.
I have been offered a start with Monarch on the Boeing fleet. Just waiting for the contract. Current time to command is all that worries me otherwise they appear to be a solid outfit.
You are MAD if you go to Monarch on the new package, it is seriously BAD. The guy leaving Easy for ZB must be a loony.
I've just left Monarch for sandy pastures, been there 14 years, for generally other reasons. Great bunch of people to work with, but there are huge attacks on the terms and conditions of both new and established pilots.
The pilots are in dispute with the company, remember that, its not happy company like it once was!!!
At MAN on the 320/1 you will work you nuts off and be permanently knackered. Other bases not too bad.
EGGW
I've just left Monarch for sandy pastures, been there 14 years, for generally other reasons. Great bunch of people to work with, but there are huge attacks on the terms and conditions of both new and established pilots.
The pilots are in dispute with the company, remember that, its not happy company like it once was!!!
At MAN on the 320/1 you will work you nuts off and be permanently knackered. Other bases not too bad.
EGGW
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I am sure the ex EZY person is neither mad nor a loony.
Both airlines have their attractions and also things that go against them.
Monarch pilots are, generally, an intelligent bunch and the main complaint about the current disagreement with the company is the way the managing director has gone about it. If someone is happy to sign a contract that is inferior to your own then there is nothing much you can do about it. You are well within your rights, however, to defend your own contract when you feel it is under attack.
If you plan to stay a long time then you will definitely notice the reduction in quality of the contract (less increments, no wide body scale, pension) but if your plan is to use it as a stepping stone then it will not make much difference.
A pilot has the opportunity to gain a huge diversity of experience whether operating day-trips out of base or moving on to wide body operations.
Typical career pattern - start off flying B757 as RHS (possibly moving onto B767 in near future) - gain command on A320/321 flying predominantly shorthaul - in long term, with seniority, command on A330/B757/B767.
Join EZY - RHS for 3 years, flying lo-cost round Europe - gain command, flying lo-cost round Europe for 32 years.
In respect of command then don't believe everything you have read. Some people have just gone on the seniority list only 20-30 slots behind people who have been there 5-6 years. Nobody joined the seniority list for a long time after March 2001. The next joiner was only a couple of months ago.
Monarch has definitely changed over the last few years but there are still far worse options out there.
Both airlines have their attractions and also things that go against them.
Monarch pilots are, generally, an intelligent bunch and the main complaint about the current disagreement with the company is the way the managing director has gone about it. If someone is happy to sign a contract that is inferior to your own then there is nothing much you can do about it. You are well within your rights, however, to defend your own contract when you feel it is under attack.
If you plan to stay a long time then you will definitely notice the reduction in quality of the contract (less increments, no wide body scale, pension) but if your plan is to use it as a stepping stone then it will not make much difference.
A pilot has the opportunity to gain a huge diversity of experience whether operating day-trips out of base or moving on to wide body operations.
Typical career pattern - start off flying B757 as RHS (possibly moving onto B767 in near future) - gain command on A320/321 flying predominantly shorthaul - in long term, with seniority, command on A330/B757/B767.
Join EZY - RHS for 3 years, flying lo-cost round Europe - gain command, flying lo-cost round Europe for 32 years.
In respect of command then don't believe everything you have read. Some people have just gone on the seniority list only 20-30 slots behind people who have been there 5-6 years. Nobody joined the seniority list for a long time after March 2001. The next joiner was only a couple of months ago.
Monarch has definitely changed over the last few years but there are still far worse options out there.
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flexthrust, current time to command for new joiners will be in the region of 10 years, thomson fly tried this approach to the pilot workforce and due lack of interest have gone back to final salary pension scheme for all and a link between pay scales and all the perks, bupa,travel etc etc. - and they are hiring.
First Officers have been leaving Monarch recently to go to BA, Virgin, Emirates, BMed and ... EASY.
If you are coming with a type rating for this deal (cannot think why) - good luck
If you are coming for your first jet job - many congratulations you have made a wise choice!
If you are coming with a type rating for this deal (cannot think why) - good luck
If you are coming for your first jet job - many congratulations you have made a wise choice!
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A lot of mixed opinions.
I have 3000 turbo prop hours and have always wanted to work for Monarch.
Lots of peeps saying NO. So what's it actually like to work for them?
Interview next week.
Many thanks in advance....
I have 3000 turbo prop hours and have always wanted to work for Monarch.
Lots of peeps saying NO. So what's it actually like to work for them?
Interview next week.
Many thanks in advance....
You will work with a great bunch of people, of that is there no doubt.
But, terms and conditions for you a new joiner are rubbish. You will be on an entirely different pay package from all current employees, scale C.
BALPA and the piots are not a happy bunch at Monarch.
It was once a company for a career, now its a place for getting hours and disappearing off for a better job somewhere else.
EGGW
But, terms and conditions for you a new joiner are rubbish. You will be on an entirely different pay package from all current employees, scale C.
BALPA and the piots are not a happy bunch at Monarch.
It was once a company for a career, now its a place for getting hours and disappearing off for a better job somewhere else.
EGGW
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Until you have worked for easy, you do not know what it is like. I was there for two years which was great. I was the 19th F/O out of LGW in to leave in one month. If it is so great,why are people leaving? Because it is not sustainable and not a career airline.I have now moved to another airline which is a breath of fresh air. Yesterday, i went into discretion for the first time in a year.At easy, it was at least two times per week with min rest in between with max FDP's every day.
With regards to getting your command, the req hours has just gone up and to be honest I could not think of anything worse than working like a slave for the rest of my life! I would prefer to be a taxi driver!Yes the money is great but you cannot spend it as you never get quality time off. Have heard of a couple of people spending vast amounts on Pro plus.
I feel it is much better to go to a career airline like Monarch rather than getting your cmd at easy. As after having your cmd at easy for two years, you will want to move and where will you go? the LHS again, unless you are very lucky. You will also have to take a pay cut etc to do so.
Everything is going low cost and salaries cut. When the aviation market turns around again, I am sure we will see those golden hand shakes appearing to attract people and t's and c's will get better again.
Just a quicky, How many Monarch crews have done 6 days in a row, all of them four sector days with max FDP's - not many?
It's an average week at Easy!
With regards to getting your command, the req hours has just gone up and to be honest I could not think of anything worse than working like a slave for the rest of my life! I would prefer to be a taxi driver!Yes the money is great but you cannot spend it as you never get quality time off. Have heard of a couple of people spending vast amounts on Pro plus.
I feel it is much better to go to a career airline like Monarch rather than getting your cmd at easy. As after having your cmd at easy for two years, you will want to move and where will you go? the LHS again, unless you are very lucky. You will also have to take a pay cut etc to do so.
Everything is going low cost and salaries cut. When the aviation market turns around again, I am sure we will see those golden hand shakes appearing to attract people and t's and c's will get better again.
Just a quicky, How many Monarch crews have done 6 days in a row, all of them four sector days with max FDP's - not many?
It's an average week at Easy!
