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British Airways DEP Selection - THE lowdown Part 1

Old 30th Sep 2010, 16:59
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Thanks for that, I was thinking that might be the only option, typical more money!!!

Cheers

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Old 30th Sep 2010, 20:19
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Tell me about it....
I'm sure you can source a copy of XP (that should do it) at... ahem... reduced cost from somewhere?
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 20:50
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Anyone got a copy of Pilapt?
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 21:43
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pilot Petes course

Busbar

I have attended pilot Petes course back in 2005. He had a command with TUI last time we spoke, therefore he has good cred as it were!

The course I attended was a 2 day affair near his home close to Manchester.

The course covered all the basics of job app, CV construction and Interview techniques.

For me personally I found the course invaluable and very informative, also at a time similar to what we are currently facing job market wise.

Another service Pete provides is a question bank and feedback for airline interviews per individual airlines, provided by his ex clients to help new wannabees!

Using Pete's course ideas I successfully gained a job at Flybe in 2007, so I can certainly recommend his course to all that need an edge as far as job applications and Interview techniques are concerned.

If you are a time served pilot then perhaps you are experienced enough at this sort of thing, but for newbies then I suggest you give pete a ring.

If you PM me then I can give you a contact number, but I'm sure you can find him on the net.

Happy hunting

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Old 30th Sep 2010, 22:29
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Yogi,

Thanks very much for the info. I appreciate it. I am a 'time seasoned Pilot' but I really want to get into BA. I have some sort of mental block that I feel I won't make it. Not sure why as I fly for a world major at present and just got offered another position with an equally good carrier. I just feel a bit of coaching may help alleviate this. I figure it can't do any harm. As it happens I have already been in touch with Pittraining and I will try and make a course when Pete next runs one.

Anyway, once again many thanks.

Good luck to those applying in the morning (assuming the info we have is correct). Not long to wait to find out!

Cheers
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:23
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Good Luck Everyone

Requirements

You will need:
  • A current type rating on either the Airbus A320 series or Boeing 737/757/767, with an ATPL(F) and a minimum of 500 hrs recent experience on type.
  • Please ensure you have these hours now, at the point of application.
You will have a full UK issued JAA/CAA ATPL(F).



BA Recruitment
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:35
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Just thought I'd give a thumbs up for the 'Getaheadforthesky' book too. I obtained a copy a couple of years back when I was going through CTC's selection and it got me through unscathed. In fact, I was thoroughly prepared for selection becuase of it. If BA's selection is similar then I can't recommend it enough. I'm not quite eligible for BA yet but good luck to those who are going through the selection process.

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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:46
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Can anyone tell me what they define as recent experience? Is it during the last year, last 5 years?
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:56
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Direct Entry Pilot Scheme


Ref UKLHR1118
Region London
Location London, London - Heathrow
Category





Job Description


Closing Date: 01 January 2011

The Direct Entry Pilot Scheme is for experienced high calibre pilots who want to develop their careers with one of the most progressive international airlines in the business.




Requirements


You will need:

A current type rating on either the Airbus A320 series or Boeing 737/757/767, with an ATPL(F) and a minimum of 500 hrs recent experience on type.
Please ensure you have these hours now, at the point of application.



Skills, Knowledge and Expertise


You will have a full UK issued JAA/CAA ATPL(F).
You will need a first class flying record and a good level of physical fitness.
You will demonstrate evidence of leadership, intellect, resilience, reliability, adaptability high personal standards, motivation, flexibility, together with well developed customer service skills and the ability to build strong working relationships.



You as a Person


You will be physically fit and in possession of a JAA/UK CAA Medical Licence (Class 1) and able to satisfy British Airways medical requirements. Please note that British Airwaysí medical criteria for employment is of a higher standard than the CAA requirement.
Height between 1.57m (5'2") and 1.91m (6'3") with weight in proportion to height (height is accurately determined during the assessment process). Qualified pilots who are taller than 1.91m may submit an application but will be required to undergo a functionality check to confirm their ability to meet the requirements of the seating positions in the British Airways fleet of aircraft.
You will have fluency in spoken and written English.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:59
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Just to clarify on the issue of holding a UK JAA/CAA (F)ATPL - if you click through some of the initial questions they only ask for a JAA/CAA (F)ATPL licence, which you must be prepared to convert to a UK issued CAA licence.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:01
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Can anyone tell me what they define as recent experience? Is it during the last year, last 5 years?
I would suggest the requirement is to of flown on type within the last 6-12mths. The whole idea behind the type rated requirement is to get people online with an abbreviated course and save time and/or money. Even within BA if you transfer fleets and haven't flown on type within the last 2-3yrs, you require a full course conversion. I guess there is no harm in applying, but given the above I would be very surprised if anyone is employed in this wave who isn't currently flying on type.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:21
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Well I fly Airbus but I last flew the B737 about 18 months ago so that means my type rating is still valid. Also as I have over 1000 hours on the 737 I think it is fairly relevant to mention it.

Has anybody seen these on-line, multi-choice application questions you have to answer before logging on to the actual form? Is this a new thing? I don't recall this in the initial stages previously?

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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:34
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And if anyone was under the impression that somehow the process would be streamlined to get bums on seats then think again. A whole bunch of mumbo jumbo before you even get to the application pages. Then a set of questions which require a max of 250 word responses.

HR are on overdrive! Mind you nothing that a bit of googling and copy and paste wouldn't sort out
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:47
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monkeynutz

The application is open until January next year. So save yourself the stress and the "will it/won't it" question and just wait until you have the required hours. You have plenty of time. I can't imagine for the life of me they'd be bothered about how long your application is open for, it's the "submit" bit that counts
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 10:09
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Please ensure you have these hours now, at the point of application.


says it right there
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 10:12
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Non rated pilots?

Does anyone know if and when non type rated pilots will be given a chance to apply?
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 10:46
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Pasty,

Highly unlikely this time around with the flood of rated guys out here wanting to join...sorry.



Right that the easy bits of the app done......now for the obligatory HR crap (I mean reasoning and intelligence questions )
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 11:02
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In response to questions regarding 'waiting to submit application'.

I am a current BA 747 pilot and went through the BA selection process.

The absolute best advice I was ever given by the the then Head of recruitment that I happened to bump into during a turnaround was... and I quote:

"get your application in as soon as possible, you will be assigned a number and go through selection in turn. We do not wait until the closing date to assess all (100-500-200000.?) applicants then take the best 80-120. If the first 80-120.?? meet the requirements they will be employed."

I put my application in the day after I received it, a friend (much better pilot) procrastinated 2 months and finally got in with 2 years less seniority.!!

Also the person who flippantly implied that the initial rigmarole was b**l s**t is completely wrong in my view. Take it all seriously but have fun. Don't as suggested by a previous poster, "Google the answers and do a 'cut & paste' job. Many employers have very clever software to detect what is fraud.

Be mature apply honestly especially as this industry is very small and your name will get around.!!!!

Good luck to all of you despite years of anti BA ranting on pprune it is still a great place to work even with our current problems.

Toro.

p.s. I am NOT Management or a recruiter (have friends in recruitment) just a regular grateful LH line pilot.

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Old 1st Oct 2010, 17:51
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Ba Dep Url

Would somebody be kind enough to post the url of the recruitment website, please?

And, I'd like to pass on my best wishes to all who apply; I genuinely mean that - after a couple of disastrous years for the pilot fraternity, it is a pleasure to know that at least for some, the nightmare of unemployment or appalling Ts & Cs with an employer who couldn't care less, may be finally coming to an end.

TF

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Old 1st Oct 2010, 20:00
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BA Recruitment

or google "british airways jobs"
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