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British Airways DEP Selection - THE lowdown Part 1

Old 21st May 2011, 19:41
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I think the terminology has got in the way here. We probably have recruited all the 140 pilots needed this year so the next hiring drive will be in the new year. Less than 50 DEPs have started so far so courses will continue to run for the next few months........
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Old 22nd May 2011, 08:31
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Does a place in the Hold Pool count as having been "recruited"?

The question is, are those in the hold-pool who are waiting for a course date part of the 140? Or is it a case of all 140 this time around have either finished, started or been allocated courses already, and everyone else in the pool will have to wait till next year?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 13:02
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How long ago was the last time anyone was offered a start date?
I really do hope there are courses still to come, this waiting really isn't that pleasant!

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Old 22nd May 2011, 15:41
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anyone any idea of the breakdown of the numbers ie how many recruits
to each of the 737, bus and 767 fleets?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 16:38
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Or is it a case of all 140 this time around have either finished, started or been allocated courses already,
No.

If you are in the hold pool and yet to be called forward for a course then you will need patience.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 17:29
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I was given a start date of Aug 2nd back in early March. I have a feeling that this is one of the last courses scheduled - I know guys who went through the process soon after me who are still in the pool. I'm airbus by the way.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 17:48
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Not correct - a mate of mine got mid September on the Jumbo. He was 767 rated.

He found out 2-3 weeks ago.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 17:53
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Ah - Ok, I stand corrected! perhaps my comment was more accurate for airbus folk going onto the airbus at BA?? Anyone got more recent start dates on the bus?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 19:00
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Hi - yeah perhaps. I heard no more Bus courses until January, but Jumbo courses Sept/Oct/Nov.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 20:34
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At the stage 1 assessment recently it was mentioned that some high houred airbus type rated guys were going onto the jumbo....I forgot to ask at that point but does anyone know what sort of experience and hours BA consider to be high enough to go onto the 747 if not already on type?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 20:39
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2000hrs total and an unfrozen ATPL.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 15:19
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Has the 'no more Airbus courses until January' rumour come from within BA? Airbus rated (low hours) people I know who are in the holding pool and have spoken to recruitment very recently have simply been told that they will be advised of a course date in due course, and that there is no further information at this time. There has been nothing mentioned about it being as far away as the new year.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 15:40
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Airbus course information came from BA - but is 2 months out of date. As we all know, these things change on a dime.

I also heard no more 767 courses until then as well.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 16:21
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BA received only single digit applications from pilots with a 747 rating, so there will be circa 30 places on the 747 for non type rated pilots. Courses are running from July.

Airbus courses are constrained by a lack of training capacity, but there are courses running every month. Not sure how many have been filled already.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 18:59
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Fruitbat, are you aware if there are still places to be allocated on courses for the 744? Or are those 30 places already allocated? I know of only non rated on courses in Sept.

Rgrds

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Old 23rd May 2011, 20:32
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Good question. They are probably in the process of choosing who meets the criteria.
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Old 25th May 2011, 09:27
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757 pilots now being 'courted' and invited to apply.

What's the betting they are offered jobs on something a little larger....

Allegedly insufficient internal bids from unfrozen pilots!
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Old 25th May 2011, 10:37
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Whilst you are correct Tandem, to put it another way there are plenty of internal bids for the 747 but many are still within their 5 year engagement freeze.

BA may decide to unfreeze some, but in many ways it is cheaper to recruit a DEP onto the 747 and maintain the freezes.

Rumours of yet more 747's returning from the desert, so the number required may well increase...
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Old 25th May 2011, 10:49
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Here's the ad.....


Closing Date: 8th June 2011

The Direct Entry Pilot Scheme is for experienced high calibre pilots who want to develop their careers with one of the most progressive international airlines in the business.


You will need:

A valid and current type rating on the 757/767 series, which is endorsed on a UK issued JAA/CAA ATPL(A) or 'Frozen' ATPL.
You will have a minimum of 500 hrs recent experience on type.
Please be advised that you need to have these hours at the point of making your application.

We define recency as flown on the above type within the last 12 months.


The Individual
You will have a full UK issued JAA/CAA ATPL(A) or 'Frozen' ATPL, and a 757/767 type rating that is endorsed on this licence.
You will need a first class flying record and a good level of physical fitness
You will demonstrate evidence of leadership, intellect, resilience, reliability, adaptability, high personal standards, motivation and flexibility, together with well developed customer service skills and the ability to build strong working relationships
You will be physically fit and in possession of a JAA/UK CAA Medical Licence (Class 1) and able to satisfy British Airways medical requirements. Please note that British Airways’ medical criteria for employment is of a higher standard than the CAA requirement
Height between 1.57m (5'2") and 1.91m (6'3") with weight in proportion to height (height is accurately determined during the assessment process). Qualified pilots who are taller than 1.91m may submit an application but will be required to undergo a functionality check to confirm their ability to meet the requirements of the seating positions in the British Airways fleet of aircraft
You will have fluency in spoken and written English, and will hold ICAO Level 6 Language Proficiency in English.
Not open for long so get in quick
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Old 25th May 2011, 13:52
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Once an arrival schedule for the 787 is finalised, BA will be absolutely desperate for 777 drivers.

Perhaps it suits them to leave that particular source untapped for the moment...
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