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airman1900 11th November 2025 13:39

Fuel consumption
 
JetBlue flight number 285 a A220 flew JFK-RDU on Sat., Nov 11 with a max cruise altitude of 8000. How much different would fuel consumption be?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3d048e07


eckhard 11th November 2025 17:28

It would be pretty much same fuel flow at 250 kts indicated at 8,000ft as it would have been at 250 kts indicated at 37,000ft. Probably about 4,500lbs/hr. So, the fuel consumption in pounds per hour would be similar at both altitudes.

The big difference would be in the True Airspeed. 275-ish at 8000ft and about 480kts at 37,000ft. So, the fuel consumption in pounds per mile would be much more at the lower altitude.

airman1900 11th November 2025 18:06

Thanks, I should have thought about it a little more. Of course, you burn much less fuel climbing to 8,000ft vs 37,000ft.

PENKO 11th November 2025 19:38

Yes but you will steadily loose that advantage every second you stay at 8000’. On a 320 you’ll burn about 50-60% more I think, flying that low.

Deep Throat 11th November 2025 19:46


Originally Posted by airman1900 (Post 11987132)
JetBlue flight number 285 a A220 flew JFK-RDU on Sat., Nov 11 with a max cruise altitude of 8000. How much different would fuel consumption be?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3d048e07

Gear Up or Down?


DaveReidUK 11th November 2025 20:50


Originally Posted by PENKO (Post 11987348)
Yes but you will steadily loose that advantage every second you stay at 8000’. On a 320 you’ll burn about 50-60% more I think, flying that low.

Don't be silly - we all know that the real reason planes fly at FL370 is that the view is better from up there. :O

dixi188 11th November 2025 21:00

This one was didn't go well.
Hapag Lloyd A310.
https://aviation-safety.net/asndb/323474

TurningFinalRWY36 12th November 2025 00:57


Originally Posted by airman1900 (Post 11987298)
Thanks, I should have thought about it a little more. Of course, you burn much less fuel climbing to 8,000ft vs 37,000ft.

but remember you sort of gain that climb fuel back with 30 minutes of almost idle descent time

airman1900 12th November 2025 03:11


Originally Posted by Deep Throat (Post 11987353)
Gear Up or Down?

I believe it was ATC issues not an aircraft one.

Noknoipobin 15th November 2025 15:47

Everyone already knows which is more fuel-efficient between flying at 8,000 feet and 37,000 feet.So if they were flying at 8,000 feet, there was probably a necessity.

In this case, I’d guess it was likely a pressurization system failure, and it might even have been a ferry flight bringing the aircraft back for maintenance.

sycamore 15th November 2025 17:23

What calendar were they using...?

DIBO 15th November 2025 17:42


Originally Posted by Noknoipobin (Post 11989698)
In this case, I’d guess it was likely a pressurization system failure, and it might even have been a ferry flight bringing the aircraft back for maintenance.

No, it was reported as ATC capacity / staffing issues forcing them to use the FL80 escape routes.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d70f285d84.jpg

In fact, the JBU285 flight mentioned by topic starter (Saturday 8th -not 11th-) , was one in a series of lower level 'escape routes':
Nov, 9th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3d07d4cb
Nov, 6th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3cfd2a7f
Nov, 5th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3cf92fa1

Normal flights are around 70-75 minutes, the low level one's were about 90-95 minutes


Noknoipobin 16th November 2025 17:10


Originally Posted by DIBO (Post 11989744)
No, it was reported as ATC capacity / staffing issues forcing them to use the FL80 escape routes.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d70f285d84.jpg

In fact, the JBU285 flight mentioned by topic starter (Saturday 8th -not 11th-) , was one in a series of lower level 'escape routes':
Nov, 9th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3d07d4cb
Nov, 6th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3cfd2a7f
Nov, 5th: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...b6285#3cf92fa1

Normal flights are around 70-75 minutes, the low level one's were about 90-95 minutes

Thank you.

eckhard 16th November 2025 19:07

So, to answer the OP’s question, about 30% more?

AerocatS2A 16th November 2025 19:59


Originally Posted by eckhard (Post 11990334)
So, to answer the OP’s question, about 30% more?

Sounds about right. Using A320 performance calculations, 370 NM, 67T take off, FL370 is 2.1T and 8000’ is 2.7T


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