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NSEU 1st August 2025 05:14

777 Run/Cutoff Relay Operation Query
 
Gentlefolk...

I should know how this works, but my memory fails me...

The 777 RUN/CUTOFF relays are dual coil and appear to have two energised states



https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f54fffa1b7.gif
777 Fuel Control Diagram

If there is no "neutral"/normally open position, are the relays magnetically latched in the last position with permanent magnets ... or are they rotary-type relays which latch in position.. or none of the above?

Thank you!

Someone Somewhere 1st August 2025 12:43

Probably so-called 'bistable' relays. I think they use springs and an over-centre mechanism to latch in position, similar to a toggle switch. Just the actuation is by two coils (or one coil operated in two polarities), rather than by fingers.

NSEU 1st August 2025 23:13


Originally Posted by Someone Somewhere (Post 11931851)
Probably so-called 'bistable' relays. I think they use springs and an over-centre mechanism to latch in position, similar to a toggle switch. Just the actuation is by two coils (or one coil operated in two polarities), rather than by fingers.

Interesting. Thanks. I guess I would have to find a part number and datasheet to really know. Possibly Leach.

https://www.leachint.com/wp-content/...tique_M402.pdf

Not sure I understand the symbology in that document, either.

I see the fuel spar valve has 3 levels of "latching". One of the latching fuel relays shown above controls a spar valve latching relay. The spar valve latching relay controls the polarity of the spar valve DC motor. If power is lost from the spar valve latching relay, the motor is obviously not going to move, keeping the valve in its last commanded position.


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