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astromp 29th October 2024 07:04

Radiotelephony operator’s license for FAA
 
I am a FAA ATP license holder, during the document check in an airlines interview, I was request to present the Radiotelephony operator’s licenses, and the checker told me that the license can be downloaded in the FAA website, which I am quite confuse and have no idea about that. Does anyone know how can I download the Radiotelephony operator’s license online?

Will be appreciated for all of your advice, many thanks guys.

bafanguy 29th October 2024 15:38

Here you go. It's issued for life by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) with no testing...beyond the test of figuring out how to get it. Seems they only email the license rather than mailing a hard copy:

https://www.fcc.gov/obtaining-license


https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/bureau-...m/commercial-0










bafanguy 29th October 2024 15:54

Here's a bit more info. I tried to find the FAA regulation saying you have to have one but couldn't...but you do have to have one for airline ops...or at least to operate internationally. Maybe it's an ICAO requirement ?:

https://www.thrustflight.com/how-to-get-an-fcc-license/

bafanguy 29th October 2024 18:52

and...found this:


"The ICAO Convention requires that aircraft equipped with radios have a radio station license and an operator's permit. In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) sets the rules for aircraft radio licenses.

To fly internationally, FAA pilots need a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit (RP). This permit is valid for life and doesn't require a test. To get an RP, you can:
  1. Register for an FCC Registration Number (FRN) on the Commission Registration System (CORES)
  • Log in to the FCC's license management system
  • Select RR - Restricted Radiotelephone from the drop-down menu
  • Follow the instructions
  • Pay the fee
  • Receive an email link to view your permit

You can also apply for a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit with Limited Use (RL) if you're not legally eligible for employment in the US."

astromp 30th October 2024 03:22

Thank you very much, will try to get one there

stilton 30th October 2024 06:34

I still have mine, flew internationally for many years with a U.S. major, I hardly ever encountered anyone else that had one !

bafanguy 30th October 2024 07:02


Originally Posted by stilton (Post 11759783)
I still have mine, flew internationally for many years with a U.S. major, I hardly ever encountered anyone else that had one !


I'm not surprised. My employer required we have one when the ICAO requirement came out. I was never asked to produce it.

I already had one I got in 1965...but I can't remember why I even had it.

Just more government BS.

Dave Gittins 30th October 2024 12:30

My flying in the USA is on the basis of my UK PPL and it contains a FRTOL license saying I have demonstrated my competence (had to do an exam) and have demonstrated level 4 English. Are you saying that even if you can't speak a word of English you can still get a US Restricted RP just by paying the fee ? ?

Less Hair 30th October 2024 13:44

I received a simple paper form FCC permit at my (US) flight academy back then when doing the PPL SEL. Without any special examination or similar aside from doing the comms during flight training IIRC.
Had proudly done some german aviation wireless certificate before, that took like half a year of theory classes and some strict "role-play" examination at the federal communications authority. Still, we did not see, touch or use any real airband radio during all that time!

bafanguy 30th October 2024 13:52


Originally Posted by Dave Gittins (Post 11759992)
Are you saying that even if you can't speak a word of English you can still get a US Restricted RP just by paying the fee ? ?

Apparently :ooh::

Qualifications

  • be a legal resident of (or otherwise eligible for employment in) the United States; and
  • be able to speak and hear; and
  • be able to keep at least a rough written log; and
  • be familiar with provisions of applicable treaties, laws and rules which govern the radio station you will operate.



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