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Gerry747 22nd August 2024 17:29

B767 engine failure
 
B767 FCTM states with engine failure after takeoff, at acceleration height select VS 200 fpm climb. Why not use FLCH with speed increase as in B737 and B747-400 (assuming VNAF not to be used or not available). Thanks

rudestuff 22nd August 2024 19:26

Probably because FLCH logic is based on 2 engine operation and the AT would go from TO to CLB thrust. After an engine failure selecting V/S 0-200fpm keeps the AT in THR HOLD and uses the excess power to accelerate for flap retraction.

Gerry747 22nd August 2024 19:34


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11721286)
Probably because FLCH logic is based on 2 engine operation and the AT would go from TO to CLB thrust. After an engine failure selecting V/S 0-200fpm keeps the AT in THR HOLD and uses the excess power to accelerate for flap retraction.

Thanks

rudestuff 23rd August 2024 05:58

I'm second guessing myself now, V/S should also give you climb thrust and annoyingly you've quoted me so I can't even correct myself! I'll try to find an FCOM later...
For engine fire/severe damage/separation you'd turn the AT arm switch off as a memory item and thus get TO power all the way to flaps up. Some operators use this checklist for engine failure with flap out, others have no memory items and leave the AT armed until the QRH comes out. In either case I think the 0-200fpm is to prioritise acceleration over climb.

stilton 23rd August 2024 06:41

We used 100FPM

Gerry747 23rd August 2024 06:49


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11721483)
I'm second guessing myself now, V/S should also give you climb thrust and annoyingly you've quoted me so I can't even correct myself! I'll try to find an FCOM later...
For engine fire/severe damage/separation you'd turn the AT arm switch off as a memory item and thus get TO power all the way to flaps up. Some operators use this checklist for engine failure with flap out, others have no memory items and leave the AT armed until the QRH comes out. In either case I think the 0-200fpm is to prioritise acceleration over climb.

Thanks again👍

deltahotel 23rd August 2024 13:12

NTFP 3rd segment is a level acceleration. We achieve this by VS 0-200. In a previous airline it was ALT HOLD, pause, ALT HOLD. Once @ ref+80 select FLCH to maintain that speed for the rest of the climb.


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