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vortex-generators 8th February 2020 23:14

B737 MAX Sim
 
Does anyone know how many Boeing 737 max simulators there are currently in operation? How about the name location of the simulator facilities for 737 max?

ZFT 9th February 2020 07:15


Originally Posted by vortex-generators (Post 10682942)
Does anyone know how many Boeing 737 max simulators there are currently in operation? How about the name location of the simulator facilities for 737 max?

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err. None

DaveReidUK 9th February 2020 08:59

Maybe not currently in operation, but they certainly exist:


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ce18b9d42c.jpg

ZFT 9th February 2020 09:12


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10683172)
Maybe not currently in operation, but they certainly exist:


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ce18b9d42c.jpg

Concur but OP did ask in operation

FlyingStone 9th February 2020 13:00


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 10683179)
Concur but OP did ask in operation

I'm pretty sure Boeing has an operational MAX sim to test things, if we're nitpicking.

lomapaseo 9th February 2020 13:29

What's difference between a max training simulator (if-when they exist) and a late model 737 simulator?

Is there a way to synthesize the training using a a non-max simulator?

wasn't the initial plan to just have the pilots read a powerpoint presentation?

alf5071h 9th February 2020 13:36

FlyingStone, a problem with being sure, is not being so if you are not so sure.

Boeing have an engineering simulator for tests, etc. They may have a full training simulator, but this is unlikely to be approved without first having a certificated modified aircraft against which to validate the simulation.

The next question is to consider if the FAA or any other authority will approve a training simulator based on pre certification data and possibly their evaluation pilots' experience.

iflytb20 9th February 2020 20:03

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...max-simulators

This news article mentions 34 operational simulators. Some of them are airline owned so I presume they will be giving priority to training their own crews before renting out slots to other airlines. I’m sorry I couldn’t find anything about the location of the simulators but few airlines are mentioned in the article so their locations can be guessed.

Cheers

plhought 9th February 2020 21:16

Air Canada has two MAX-8 simulators.

Not sure which carriers have em in the US though (American?)

This is all moot until new software and MCAS simulation is developed for the sim though...which I'm not sure it has.

Matey 9th February 2020 22:00

Currently Boeing have 2 Max simulators in Gatwick with another one to be delivered soon. L3 Harris at Gatwick also have one installed at their new London Training Centre.

ManFlex40 9th February 2020 23:40

There is a MAX fixed base sim at Skyborne for their APS MCC

turbidus 10th February 2020 19:43

"Boeing stated there are 36 MAX sims in service. To date, airlines have purchased 56 MAX sims from CAE and 22 have been delivered."

(from CAE's quarterly report on Feb 7)

I think Textron makes the rest.

Skyjob 10th February 2020 20:45

Ryanair has a pair as well


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