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Deleting restrictions to be able to use managed climb over open climb is the gold medal of putting SOP over common sense. |
Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 10584953)
Deleting restrictions to be able to use managed climb over open climb is the gold medal of putting SOP over common sense. |
Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 10584953)
Deleting restrictions to be able to use managed climb over open climb is the gold medal of putting SOP over common sense. |
Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 10584953)
Deleting restrictions to be able to use managed climb over open climb is the gold medal of putting SOP over common sense. This made my day! Well said, sir. We need a "like" button on this forum. |
NO doubt when possible managed modes should be used but when unrestricted climb has been given use of OP CLB is what it is for. To stay in CLB by deleting waypoint is creating laborious head down work because you have to ensure you are not deleting a wrong constraint. Climb and descent have a difference. CLB and OP CLB are same without constraints they don't track any vertical path but in descent even without constraints DES follows a path calculated all the way to 1000ft on approach. OP DES is used only when you want max rate of descent with idle thrust. If you deleted constraints in descent FMS will rework the path but nothing of that sort happens in climb.
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Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10582619)
The autothrust is quite slow to react to changes, it probably targeted the lower speed first by reducing power and then realised you wanted to climb so it increased power. It's a 1980s design and can't keep up with even a modern smartphone. You would have been better off waiting until the aircraft was properly established in the climb before winding the speed back or managing it.
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A previous operator had a number of aircraft that would exhibit this behaviour. Traditionally in open climb reducing speed would produce a pitch response to meet the target but one software fit would trigger the auto thrust to reduce thrust instead. I remember the first time I saw it there were a few expletives and why is it doing that. The software changed a few months later back to what I had been used to.
Open climb should be a speed based pitch mode with auto thrust commanding climb thrust, not the autothrust commanding speed |
Open climb should be a speed based pitch mode with auto thrust commanding climb thrust, not the autothrust commanding speed |
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