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con-pilot, We watched your 727 land many times at TGU. You were flying illegals back so went out of there with a light load. I flew the last month in a 727 100 but we could only take off or land to the north. We had nose wheel brakes on the 100 so guess that is why we used it. The 757 could land either way depending on weight. I loved that airport because you didn't have to follow our airline's lame rules designed for the dumbest pilot on the airline to not screw up. It was a lot of fun and very safe if you followed the rules. Nice to know you enjoyed it too.

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"Ah the DC 8. They don't make planes like that anymore!"

As much as I like Boeing stuff, the 8 is my favorite. When the US guvmint gets their act together, checkout www.nasa.gov/dc-8. It will probably be the only DC-8 flying in the US sometime next year, and it is really more of a flying science lab than an airliner. Great history, too. Alitalia and Braniff as a -62, then the last Cammacorp kit converting it to a -72 with NASA.

Unless somebody is playing a joke, I believe that may already be flying. If your ever bored on flightaware take a look at KEFD as I've noticed a few days with the DC8 doing a tour of the lower midwest with a U2 tagging along at 60 something FL's ....or some T38 guys busting mach for minute or two on decent from the Gulf := (or at least the flightawares' numbers say :rolleyes:) )

Just read the AAIB report on the 737 flight test that went wrong.

A real gem in there:

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The commander then said "ARE THEY ALL BACK ON – PUT ALL THE [unintelligible] CONTROLS BACK ON"

"Unintelligible", yeah, right! :D

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Originally Posted by er340790 (Post 8140244)

Yup... and it never flew straight thereafter ever again.

Wiki has it that - following repairs - the aircraft continued in service with Dynasty for a further 12 years.

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Originally Posted by captplaystation (Post 8140402)

So many deviations/omissions /general misconceptions that it beggars belief, I can only assume the Commander was selected courtesy of his "hand-shake" :hmm: rather than his inherent piloting/technical abilities.

A little harsh, I feel - after all he and his crew did get it back on the ground with no injury to occupants, or - apparently - the airframe. Thinking one knows better than "the book" is certainly not specific to pilots from the UK, that's for certain! In any case, I suspect that the influence of the funny-handshake brigade went out of fashion around the same time as bell-bottoms and platform boots for men!

Why the bitterness?

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We had nose wheel brakes on the 100 so guess that is why we used it.

Our's had been removed, by the time we recieved the 100s. I don't think our 200 ever had nose wheel brakes. OK456 would probably know.

OK465

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Just my opinion, but I always thought taking the fully loaded -200 in and out of Greenbrier was the USMS operation that required the most skill, alertness and precision and actually did border on marginal at times.

Your opinion is dead on. I hated taking the 200 into Greenbrier. But that is/was/I don't know any more, the longest runway* in West Virginia when I was with the USMS and that is why we used it. In the 100s it was no problem. I always greased on the 100s there, but the in 200, my landings there were more like controlled crashes.

American Airlines started a regular run into Greenbrier for a while in 200s, but stopped I think. Why I don't know, but after flying our 200 in and out of there I think I can figure out why. Personally I don't think we should have ever used to 200 at Greenbrier.

And they are still talking about getting 757s are they, well I wish them the best of luck. I'm sure that by now there are some worn out, 20 to 30 year old, junky 757s that they can get. As those where the only type of aircraft that we could get when I was there. The 800s came after I left.

One more question if you don't mind, I've not seen any of the guys lately, is it true they are parking the MD-80s and going back to 737s? I heard that lately, but it was just a rumor.

*Well, that was what I was told by the powers to be anyway.

Back to the thread... Was'nt there a report some years back of a 757 possibly Icelandic? Exceeding design limits in a loss of control.Can anyone find that one?

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(Apologies for thread drift)

Same here and thank you OK456.