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Young Paul 2nd May 2002 23:10

I still like Slasher's first reply about wood and rubber and the QED at the end.

I knew there was a reason that so many early aeroplanes were built out of rubber.

M.Mouse 2nd May 2002 23:14

Phase slag

Funny you should mention helicopter blades. I remember seeing a documentary showing some film some while ago taken with with a rotor head mounted video camera.

Now that was scary!

In a similar vein to Apex45's question I am always fascinated to think of the loads transmitted through the engine mountings of a 777 in an engine failure on take-off situation at max. weights or are they machined out of rubber too?:D :D :D :D :D

Checkboard 3rd May 2002 03:10

Hmm, after a bit or research, Slash!

As the Electra became operational, they found some excessive vibration in the centre cabin, and the outboard props were more highly stressed than the inboard ones - this was the reason the outboard nacelles' incidence was raised 3° upwards.

The Vno was reduced from 324 kt to 275 kt, and then a week later to 225 kt (with a Vne of 245 kt) after the second accident I mentioned above, and stayed that way until the LEAP was completed.

411A 3rd May 2002 07:32

Considering the bending relief of aircraft wings, it is interesting to note the maximum designed movement (full up to full down) of the wing tip in normal service is....
DC-6/DC-7, 12 feet
L1649A, 14 feet
B707-320, 22 feet
Beyond this amount, skin deformation occurs.

jrs2-benson 6th May 2002 00:58

Just a short thought. Not only is it important to not exceed the elastic limit of the material, but it is also V important not to stress the material to its proof stressor beyond. In other words, the material has been bent, but by such a small degree that it may go un-noticed. 1-2% proof stress can cause critical crystal/grain distlocations in some materials which could decrease the ultimate strength of the material by 25-40%. This eats into the Factor of Saftey and even into the normal operating load range, with associated brown pants!

I am sorry if this was boring or incorrect.

Slasher 6th May 2002 04:33

Yeh thanks Checks. Be interesting to see what John T says on the subject.


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