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nomorecatering 9th February 2013 20:40

GA piston engines - Cylinder Girdles
 
Recently i was watching a slow motion video that was showing a 6 cylinder GA engineat full power and was quite amazed to see the cylinders waving around like leaves in a wind. The amount of movement was quite stagering.

There is a company that claims to have a fix for this. Where they have the rocker covers for all cylinders on each each side as one very solid unit and then have a number of cross brace bolts tying the oposite sides together, much like a strut brace a car.

They claim its very effective in making the engine much more rigid in very high power aerobatic operations, but would it pay any dividends on normal stock engines, especialy in terms of reliability.

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Tu.114 10th February 2013 05:35

Sounds interesting - but actually, what is the necessity behind such an addition? The engine should be designed to withstand those vibrations also without those additional struts and braces; tying parts together that are not meant to would change the vibration patterns and possibly induce loads on parts that were not meant to bear them. Compare an unbraced cylinder moving like a reed (hinged on one side) vs. a braced one vibrating like a string (hinged on both sides) - the bending moments seem rather different.

717tech 10th February 2013 10:41

Wouldn't have a link to the video? Would be interesting to see.. I couldn't find it through google or YouTube.

A Squared 11th February 2013 18:46


Sounds interesting - but actually, what is the necessity behind such an addition? The engine should be designed to withstand those vibrations also without those additional struts and braces; tying parts together that are not meant to would change the vibration patterns and possibly induce loads on parts that were not meant to bear them. Compare an unbraced cylinder moving like a reed (hinged on one side) vs. a braced one vibrating like a string (hinged on both sides) - the bending moments seem rather different.
Thast's what I was thinking. Additionally, if you have two adjacent cylinders vibrating up and down, 180 degrees out of phase with each other, he you tie the heads together that would introduce a moment around each cylinder's axis which didn't exist before.

It's worth noting that nowhere on that site could I find any reference to an STC for the modification. That would lead me to believe that there isn't one, which means it's for experimental aircraft only.

Yeelep 12th February 2013 00:45

The aircooled Porsche 911's have no issues with the cylinder heads on each bank tied together by the cam carrier.

Pretty obvious from the link that they are primarily for use on highly modified non certified engines.

A A Gruntpuddock 12th February 2013 02:03

I would have thought that significant movement of the cylinders on a non-ohc engine must have significant effect on the valve clearances.

bcgallacher 13th February 2013 06:21

Lycoming and Continental engines have hydraulic tappets in the valve train which keep the valve clearances at zero - they are self adjusting during every opening/closing cycle.

A Squared 13th February 2013 06:22


Originally Posted by bcgallacher
Lycoming and Continental engines have hydraulic tappets in the valve train which keep the valve clearances at zero - they are self adjusting during every opening/closing cycle.

Not all of them. The Lyc O-235/O-290 series has solid lifters.


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