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the way how today most glass cockpit pilots use their piloting technique, (not only in Air France), nothing dramatic would change initially.
However after ....when accidents and incidents are compared many of us may become very much surprised to find out what is more safe. :cool: |
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I'll post what I've posted on these threads for over ten years here.
When the freight trains start going by my house with less than a three-man crew I'll start worrying..... |
From the article Taras B posted:
Allowing single-crew operation of airliners would provide substantial savings for airlines and help to alleviate forecast pilot shortages once the industry returns to sustained growth. |
Since no passenger will step into an airplane with no pilots flying I don't think we have a problem. What do you think?
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As has been said here many, many times before, notwithstanding passengers being dead against it, it is security that will stop it from happening. A bunch of dedicated suicidal terrorist could take over a ground control unit, possibly but not necessarily, in a country where security may not be as tight as in others or they may just get them selves their own ground control unit that can block the signals from the genuine ground unit, either way mayhem and blood shed will ensue and no further passengers will board a pilotless aircraft. It simply won't happen.
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I'll post what I've posted on these threads for over ten years here. When the freight trains start going by my house with less than a three-man crew I'll start worrying..... Most freight trains on most railroads today have a crew of two: one conductor and one engineer. Don't worry son, the union will take care of you... :) |
When the freight trains start going by my house with less than a three-man crew I'll start worrying..... CSX 8888 incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Basis for the movie Unstoppable. Unstoppable (2010) - IMDb Decent flick, but they took some license..... OK, quite a bit. |
If I take a position operating one of these which column do I need to use to log the details in my logbook
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I remember when some old timers told me (i was just getting started as a pilot) there was no way we could go without the 3rd pilot.:cool:
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No Stick, No screens, no Yoke. Flight marshals with deadly force.
Boeing. Take some getting used to.... |
Since no passenger will step into an airplane with no pilots flying I don't think we have a problem |
With all the security these days most pax never see a pilot, so how would they know if one is not there?:}
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As its topical and soon, you might be interested in this:
http://www.raeng.org.uk/events/pdf/lret_flyer_2012.pdf |
A few years ago when I was flying GA, there were loads of threads on here about the fact that GPS navigation could never catch on and should never be relied on.
Can you believe we used to go flying with a whizz-wheel clutched in our clammy hands together with a chart measuring 1m x 1m. on which we had made marks with china-graph pencils. The Pooley's book with the airfield data was also kept somewhere handy. We actually used all this stuff for primary navigation. "dont ever use a GPS unit while flying, they are bound to fail and then what will you do?" |
Pilots
So only one pilot in the future?! He must come directly from flight school since there are no copilots anymore.
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It is getting to the point now that a controller sends the aircraft a message and the pilot has hot keys to reject, cancel or accept. Talk is cheap, 100001001001001000100 will be the only form of communication in aviation in the near future.
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Originally Posted by The SSK
No, the biggest problem, and the one that will kill it stone dead, is money. Who is going to pay the billions and squillions it would take to get a pilotless airliner certified?
The airlines? No, they never asked for one Boeing/Airbus? No, they don't have customers lined up and their regular buyers would crucify them if they thought they were funding blue sky research like this and passing the costs on to their bread-and-butter products. FedEx founder Fred Smith came by the Wired offices yesterday for a chat on a range of things, but I'll focus here on the bit relevant to this site. He says that they'd like to switch their fleet to UAVs as soon as possible but that this will have to wait for the FAA, which has a tough road ahead in figuring out the rules of NAS integration. Unmanned cargo freighters have lots of advantages for FedEx: safer, cheaper, and much larger capacity. The ideal form is the "blended wing" (example shown). That design doesn't make a clear a distinction between wings and body, so almost all the interior of both can be used for cargo. The result is that the price premium for air over sea would fall from 10x to 2X (with all the speed advantages of air). As he notes, a modern 777 is already capable of being an unmanned vehicle. "They let the pilots touch the controls for about 20 seconds, to advance the throttles, and then the plane takes over," he said, only half-kidding. The truth is that the plane can take off, fly and land itself. Today pilots drive the planes on the ground, but there's no reason why the computer can't do that, too. Sully's a hero, but Smith's perspective is that humans in the cockpit make the airways more dangerous, not less. Because the FAA rules are not in place, nobody's built that perfect blended wing UAV for FedEx yet. But Smith believes it's only a matter of time. As he notes, the key thing is having NO people on board, not even as backup. A single person in the craft requires a completely different design, along with radically different economics and logistics. The efficiencies come with 100% robotic operation. Considering the new ATC coming in, and all the research going into UAF and IA, it seems very plausible to see FedEx drones flying over our heads in let's say 20 years top. |
Hi Huck et al,
Your worries start now.... Rio Tinto Iron Ore - Rail Note the comment in the 'train profile'..... "Each train is operated by a single driver, and comprises up to 234 ore cars, each ore car with a load capacity of approximately 112 tonnes. A fully loaded train weighs approximately 31,000 tonnes and is about 2.4 kilometres in length." AS the Flight Engineers, and the Navigators before them said..... 'They'll never get rid of us'..... p.s. I for one, hope that 'they' don't... Cheers:} |
AS the Flight Engineers, and the Navigators before them said..... 'They'll never get rid of us'..... http://ameliaearhartcontroversy.com/...ight-Deck1.jpg |
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