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PEI_3721 13th March 2012 13:39

Flare? Wossa flare please.....
With this class of aircraft, it’s when the ground senses an imminent arrival and gracefully gives way.
Of course arriving too quickly can catch the ground unawares; in mild instances it results in a gentle skip, but beware of cold, wet, dark nights with high crosswind, when the ground is very sluggish.

haughtney1 13th March 2012 13:43

B777 50.....40....30...20 HEAVE! :}

misd-agin 13th March 2012 13:53

Cheyenne? II, III. Took delivery of the 7th(?) III produced Oct. 27, 1980.(logbook #1 out of 6). ;)

744 power reduction at 30-40'? :ok: Perfect example that what's normal for one a/c is completely wrong for another airplane.

If you went to idle at 30-40' in a Cheyenne or a Navajo there's a high probability that they'll have to get a crane to get the plane off the runway.

aerobat77 13th March 2012 16:22


If you went to idle at 30-40' in a Cheyenne or a Navajo there's a high probability that they'll have to get a crane to get the plane off the runway.
thats fully correct and because of that i quoted this post previously with a laugh :


16 years flying, pistons, turboprops, medium jets (A320), I don't remember ONCE looking at my speed past the threshold.
I try to fly at Vapp/Vref stable until I hear 30/40 feet, thrust idle, flare and let it sit in the TDZ.
missed again : you have experience on a ( real ) cheyenne III?

Dani 13th March 2012 17:02


a turboprop will brake like a rock , especially with props forward , when you retard to idle. a jet floats much more in.
This is true for most turboprops but not for all. I flew some where it was perfectly fine to go to idle before touchdown. It all depends on the design. Every aircraft is different.

misd-agin 14th March 2012 02:28

Cheyenne III time? Yes. PM sent.

aerobat77 14th March 2012 19:43


Cheyenne III time? Yes. PM sent.
dank dir, i replied to you !


This is true for most turboprops but not for all. I flew some where it was perfectly fine to go to idle before touchdown. It all depends on the design. Every aircraft is different.
well, you can go to idle before touchdown, but very close to the ground . since i of course cannot speak for every turboprop i can assure you that in the ones i have experience- cheyenne I , III and cessna 441 its a very bad idea to follow the instruction that was given and laughfully quoted by me : keep vref and than retard to idle in 40 ft height.

best regards


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