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BeforeStart 1st March 2011 09:29

No Engine Bleed Takeoff B737
 
Hi!

My company operates all takeoffs as No Engine Bleed takeoffs to save the engines (B737 Classic + NG).

There has been no documentation put forward to help explain to us how much we actually save by doing this in terms of EGT/saved maintenance costs. Considering the extra fuel burn to the APU and the associated higher maintenance costs - is this really cost effective?

With max derate and assumed temperature of 60 - how much is then saved by using this procedure?

BOAC 1st March 2011 10:14

Quite significant I would guess in terms of TBO on the motors due to the reduced max temperatures achieved - they could always 'drop' the APU and go no bleeds!:)

de facto 1st March 2011 10:17

Thats what i call a Low Cost airline!
So you do bleeds off with derate and assume temp?

ImbracableCrunk 1st March 2011 11:23

No engine bleeds and a max derate? Yikes. What's the seat pitch? Let me guess - you have to pay to use the lav, too?

lederhosen 1st March 2011 11:48

Shortly after we introduced the laptop performance calculation tool I had a tower controller ask if we had had an engine failure! The view from the sharp end has changed completely on some takeoffs with long runways and a short sector.


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