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GAMEOVER 23rd February 2011 16:07

Loc & Gs Deviation
 
Hi Everybody,

I´m not sure about the requirements during a stabilized approach regarding LOC and GS in the following ILSs

What is the maximum deviation allowed for LOC and GS please.?

1. ILS CAT I
2. ILS CAT II
2. ILS CAT III

Thanks in advance. :)

Capn Bloggs 23rd February 2011 22:19

It should be in your ops manual.

Ours is ½ scale maximum for both LLZ and GS (Cat 1).

Otherwise, it's game over! :E

NZScion 23rd February 2011 22:25

As Capn Bloggs said, half scale deflection is the maximum. The indications also need to be stable (i.e. no going from half scale too high, to half scale too low, all the way down the GP). If you are unable, its time to get some missed approach practice ;)

GAMEOVER 24th February 2011 11:47

Hi ALL :)

Thanks for your answeres, but..

According to Airbus (Flight Operations Briefing Notes) The maximum, flying stabilized approaches are:

LOC: 1/4 dot
GS: 1 dot

Airbus doesn´t say anything at all about CAT I, II, or III :(

They are ambiguous, I would be very grateful if someone could tell me the requirements (LOC&GS) in his/her Company in the following:

CAT I
CAT I
CAT III A

I´m aware that flying CAT III-A having GS 1 Dot deviation OR "half scale..." then you have to carry out a missed approach.

I don´t understand those notes from Airbus.:sad:

:ok:

Intruder 24th February 2011 18:19

Ours (747) are 1/2 dot G/S and 1/3 dot LOC.

Capn Bloggs 24th February 2011 22:14

Probably confusing the issue is the definition of a "dot". As displays are different, perhaps we should be relating description of limits to the scale range eg ½ scale.

sevenstrokeroll 24th February 2011 23:31

for our whole fleet...just like intruders!

737, A319,20,21, 757 767 A 330 etc.

in prehistoric times we use to say...everything had to be in the donut

old timers?

Capn Bloggs 25th February 2011 00:01


1/3 dot LOC.
What is 1/3 of a dot in relation to full-scale?

Are these the dots (this isn't an expanded scale):

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w...gs/PFDdots.jpg

Intruder 25th February 2011 03:13

AFAIK, a dot is standardized by the FAA and/or ICAO (though I don't know the standards/definitions). On a normal display, a dot is a dot, and 2 dots are displayed either side of center for both LOC and G/S. On the 744, the dots are replaced by rectangles on the LOC expanded display, and each rectangle is half a dot (i.e., the display is 4x as sensitive). The 1/3 dot is defined by the diamond cursor first touching a rectangle.


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