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I am having a little difficulty understanding what you are proposing. Here is why.
Originally Posted by HN39
c_L=1.3826*10^-4*W/(delta*M^2*S)
where W=weight (mass) in kg, delta=ratio of ambient to SLS pressure, M=Mach, S= (reference) wing area in m^2 Whereas in the usual definition of c_L, which you quote as
Originally Posted by HN39
c_L ..... is commonly defined as LIFT/(q*S)
PBL |
PBL;
Yes, you're quite right. c_L is dimensionless. The formula interprets W as mass. regards, HN39 PM The constant just after the equal sign is equal to 2*g/(rho*c^2), where: g = acceleration of gravity at SL = 9.80665 m/s^2 rho = air density at SL std temp = 1.225 kg/m^3 c = speed of sound at SL std temp = 340.3 m/s |
Originally Posted by HN39
The formula interprets W as mass, all units are accounted for in the number that precedes it, which has the dimension (in your notation) of L^2/M.
Terminology difference. Yes, it is now clear to me that your numbers are constants. However, I still have difficulty with equating weight with mass. Weight is to me still a force (opposed in the case of level flight to lift, and one which I feel clearly every time I pick up my suitcase), so still M x L / T^2. PBL |
PBL: Sorry I missed your post while editing mine. I trust the re-edit clears things up.
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An alternative (and perhaps simpler?) way into this one is to note that
q = 1/2*gamma*M^2*P where P is staitc pressure, Hence: c_L = weight/(1/2*gamma*M^2*P*S) If you substitute P= delta*101325 Pa, weight = mass*9.80665 m/s^2 and gamma=1.4 you get HN39's formula. In any event c_L (and hence alpha) increase as you cimb at constant Mach. Would Mcrit for a wing increase with alpha? I don't know but I would think it might. |
AoA and altitude
This graph: Variation of AoA with altitude shows angle of attack at constant weight and Mach (0.65) for a typical new technology widebody airplane.
regards, HN39 |
The Prandtl relation and the more commonly used Karman Tsien have two main applications...
1. determine the lift slope curve dCl/dalpha 2. to find the highest incompressible Lift coefficient where the free stream MN =1.00,...or Mcrit---usually in a graphical tabulation of some kind :) |
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