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TheDrop 26th July 2010 19:02

Hubbell Utility socket, found in Galleys
 
Hubbell Utility socket, found in Galleys - carries 115VAC 400Hz. But where does one find a converter, or plug which fits?

Think Hubbell First lists many different plugs but most look like normal mains types.

gas path 26th July 2010 19:53


...................they use them on their hoovers and might have a spare one lying around.
Failing that there's always sidecutters!:E:E

TheDrop 26th July 2010 20:02

Just for powering a laptop when occasionally deadheading.

If this is aviation grade stuff, I imagine it would cost dearly! Too bad my old fits-it-all converter does not fit this plug. Tried the one in the washroom, and it was disconnected (converted freighter ...)

FE Hoppy 26th July 2010 21:13

Good luck with the 400Hz mate.

ant1 26th July 2010 22:19

I've seen colleagues plug their laptops to the cockpit outlet and 400Hz didn't seem to be an issue.

DBate 27th July 2010 05:50


I've seen colleagues plug their laptops to the cockpit outlet and 400Hz didn't seem to be an issue.
It isn't. I regulary charge different electronic devices using the 400Hz power outlet on board. Works perfectly, haven't had any problems yet. But only when on the ground - company policy.

FE Hoppy 27th July 2010 06:36

Using 400Hz through a tru rated for 50-60 Hz will result in low output voltage and/or high tru temperature. One is bad for your devices battery the other is bad for your tru(power supply).

There is a reason they put the frequency range on the back of power transformers.

ant1 27th July 2010 16:42

DBAte: of course (really) ;)

FE Hoppy: I'll let the computer addicts know.

barit1 29th July 2010 01:04

During my flt ops engr career, I regularly charged my TI-58C handheld (I'm dating myself...) using a 400hz source near the jumpseat. The charger was a simple transformer-rectifier device, and in general, transformers designed for 50-60 hz are perfectly happy (cooler than normal) on 400hz.

The converse IS NOT TRUE - there's not enough iron in a 400hz transformer to permit it to run at lower frequency. 400 hz transformers (& motors, generators, etc), because of their lighter weight, are popular in aircraft.

The switching-type power device for a laptop first rectifies the incoming AC to DC to drive the switching semiconductors. It should not matter what the power frequency is; 400 should be as good (or better) than 50-60 hz.

FE Hoppy 29th July 2010 12:27

And yet the option to have pc power outlets fitted in the cockpit costs tens of thousands of $ :ugh:


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