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Duchess_Driver 6th October 2009 15:01

YouTube - Aviation - Boeing 747 - Airplane Crash (Explosion)

Think the fuselage was presurised at the time....., not sure to what altitude. Nor am I sure what the size of the charge was, but I'm fairly certain it was about the same size at Lockerbie.

Yes, 'twas a United airlines 74 out of Hawaii that blew a forward cargo door. 9 pax didn't make it back.

smudgethecat 6th October 2009 15:36

LMAO at QAR ASR really bit there didnt you?, must be hard going through life with no sense of humour, it was pretty obvious chowders post was firmly tonque in cheek .

However back to the OP best course of action is obviously a RTB where the damage can be inspected, it may be possible if the MEL/CDL permits it to go with a cargo door missing and a inop engine, in that case the delay may not be to severe

PS the A320 main cargo doors are certainly not of the plug type christiaanj, however the bulk door is

Desk Jockey 6th October 2009 16:07

Smudgethecat pleease tell me you are joking and don't have anthing to do with real aircraft.:eek:

Pilotinmydreams 6th October 2009 16:23

I think that possibly the British sense of humor may get lost on people from outside the UK. :)

Storminnorm 6th October 2009 16:26

DJ, read the FIRST message title. Hypothetical????

Don't worry, Be happy. O.K.?

Mr Optimistic 6th October 2009 21:39

Uncomfortable thread
 
Surprised its still here: even the British can sometimes not see the humour. As a passenger I wouldn't mind the delay as I could concentrate on writing a longer will. Idiots. Bomb, door, engine, sheesh.

Jimmy Hoffa Rocks 6th October 2009 23:30

Fatigue failure
 
( This thread is not intented for passengers and the commercial/marketing deparment sorry )

Fatigue failure is the hypothetical scenario No. 2.
A better one. Thanks again.

Obviously we all have too much free time or we would not be posting replies

Aloha Airlines 243
1989

Airplanes are retired after so many cycles for good reason, I guess.

Obviously one fell through the cracks.


" It was later determined that the failure was caused by widespread fatigue damage in the aluminum skin of the fuselage. It was calculated that this particular aircraft had experienced 89,090 flight cycles over its 19 year life span. What caused this failure, and how could it have been prevented? "
Causes of Crack Growth in Aloha Flight 243



Read more: http://mechanical-engineering.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_fatigue_failure_of_aloha_flight_243#ixzz0TCXZvZUP

Kerosine 6th October 2009 23:56


Jimmy Hoffa Rocks

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Planet earth
Perhaps not currently residing in stated location :hmm:

TheOptimist 6th October 2009 23:58

Hand a passenger a roll of duct tape and let them get on with it.

Bla Bla Bla 7th October 2009 00:06

Once we have covered this subject can we please go onto the correct procedure for the following.

Correct procedure for an alien craft docking with us and boarding during the flight.

Or the correct landing procedure for the air hostess who is flying the a/c as the crew all had the fish for dinner.

Any other What if scenarios can we come up with.:)

35hPA28 7th October 2009 01:22

Sweet spots
 
A pilot told me once that airliners have one or more locations where previously unknown to be on-board explosive devices suspected to be capable of going off in short notice :eek: shoud be placed, in case they are found during flight.

Is it so? Any examples for types currently flown? (So I can do a better job at picking my seat next trip) :}

TheOptimist 7th October 2009 02:34

^^^

I imagine the 'locations' are found by opening a window....

35hPA28 7th October 2009 02:54

Windows...
 
At 30,000 plus feet? Kind of defeats the porpouse, doesn´t it? :ugh:

Karl Bamforth 7th October 2009 04:20

Sorry, when did we arrive at 30,000 ?
I must have slept through the climb phase.

Maybe its the lack of oxygen that is causing humour failure on this thread.

Junkflyer 7th October 2009 04:44

The Aloha Airlines 737 failed due in part to the bonding between 2 metal surfaces. It was a "cold bond" process that has been discontinued since it allowed moisture in between the surfaces. The high cycle time is due to the relatively short flights between islands in Hawaii. Honolulu Maui or Kauai is about 21 minutes. Long flights (Honolulu-Hilo) maybe 35 minutes.
The Ual flight was headed for Auckland and the fwd cargo door opened inflight and tore a hole in the first class cabin which sucked out 9 passengers and caused fod damage to the #3 and 4 engines.

Jimmy Hoffa Rocks 7th October 2009 07:55

Monty Python
 
Junkflyer, that's useful information." Cold bond "
Cheers

some of the black humour reminds me of monty python

Capt Pit Bull 7th October 2009 08:39


A pilot told me once that airliners have one or more locations where previously unknown to be on-board explosive devices suspected to be capable of going off in short notice shoud be placed, in case they are found during flight.
Yes, this is true. A "Least Risk Bomb Location" may be specified for an aircraft.


Is it so? Any examples for types currently flown? (So I can do a better job at picking my seat next trip)
Sorry, I don't think its appropriate to discuss this in any further depth.

Dit 7th October 2009 11:15


Is it so? Any examples for types currently flown? (So I can do a better job at picking my seat next trip)
You don't think you'd be moved away from said location if this event were actually to occur?

TckVs 7th October 2009 14:20

Captain S pit Bull,

I agree with you, But I wouldn't sit near the back doors of the jumbo Either.:ok:

Did I get you right:D

35hPA28 8th October 2009 05:24

For the record
 
TheOptimist:
It was a serious question, so I took your answer seriously. Sorry, I did miss the humour...

Karl Bamfort:
The question was generic and not related to the 5,000ft mentioned in the first post. Opening anything in the pressure hull while there is still a press diff in relation to the atmosphere could be just as explosive. That is the point I was trying to make. Regarding lack of oxygen, yes, late in the night -> humour failure.

Capt Pit Bull:
Thanks for the answer and for the correct terminology. The second part of my question was asked in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way but I agree 100% that details are better left alone except for those who legitimally need to know.

Dit:
I do hope so, but that spoils my joke!


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