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FE Hoppy 6th March 2009 14:03

You may not like them but you know there is no way you could stop in as short a distance without them.

MacBoero 6th March 2009 14:15


You may not like them but you know there is no way you could stop in as short a distance without them.
Well there's the common misconception...

Anti lock brakes more often than not extend stopping distances, over an identical car without ABS. What ABS does do for you is allow you to continue to steer the car. A car without ABS that locks all four wheels up will stop far short of a car with ABS, it will however continue in a straight line, irrespective of what the driver does with the steering wheel.

Personally I think ABS in cars should be disabled unless the front wheels are trying to steer.

BOAC 6th March 2009 14:21


a little behind the technology curve mate.
.Foot in well shot?:)

I take it we are talking ALB here? TLAR. Excuse the FLA.:confused:

DC-ATE 6th March 2009 14:29


MacBoero -
Well there's the common misconception...
Anti lock brakes more often than not extend stopping distances, over an identical car without ABS.
I was going to try and point that out, but didn't feel like arguing. some people you just can't convince of some things.

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BOAC -

I take it we are talking ALB here? TLAR. Excuse the FLA.

The 'ALB' and 'FLA; I got, but the 'TLAR' isn't on that list you gave me!

BOAC 6th March 2009 14:50

That looks about right - also known as OFNC - 'old farts navigation computer'

Avitor 6th March 2009 14:50

What, after a bout of severe turbulence, is FFS?

BOAC 6th March 2009 14:54

or Norwich.....

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FE Hoppy 6th March 2009 15:10


Well there's the common misconception...

Anti lock brakes more often than not extend stopping distances, over an identical car without ABS. What ABS does do for you is allow you to continue to steer the car. A car without ABS that locks all four wheels up will stop far short of a car with ABS, it will however continue in a straight line, irrespective of what the driver does with the steering wheel.

Personally I think ABS in cars should be disabled unless the front wheels are trying to steer.
OK it was an over simplification.

I should have said a loaded vehicle at moderate or high speed. Or in wet or icy conditions. Which where I live is most of the time.

ChristiaanJ 6th March 2009 15:47

DC-ATE,
Nitpicking, as is my wont, but most of your examples are not acronyms, just abbreviations (another old far. ... eh, fella, butting in).

"Acronym - An abbreviation formed by (usually initial) letters taken from a word or series of words, and which is itself pronounced as a word, such as RAM" was the neatest definition I found.

The criterium is that it has to be "pronounceable", and is used as such.
So 'EICAS' and 'FADEC' qualify, 'PFD' doesn't.
'ADI' (attitude director indicator) doesn't qualify either, because it's never pronounced "aadie" but always "aa-die-eye".

I always like it when people come up with good catchy acronyms.

Exmek,
Thanks for the link to the Airbus batch.
Amusing to see they left out the infamous IFE (after the A380 debacle, no doubt).

CJ

The Real Slim Shady 6th March 2009 16:31

Human - machine interface Hoppy.

Capt: 74% Eng.

Capt: 75%

Capt: 80%

Capt: Slow cut to idle

Or

Capt: 72 degrees Eng????

WTF

DC-ATE 6th March 2009 17:00

ChristiaanJ -

Hey.....pick away. No problem, but THAT is exactly where I started this thread.....I think! Looking for av acronyms in these 'new fangled' flying machines: EFIS and the like.

ChristiaanJ 6th March 2009 17:02

RSS,
Aren't you missing a point?

TLA is only where you put the throttle lever.
Barely different from a Piper Cub, except that there are now a few "presets", such as "IDLE" and "TOGA" and a few in between.
That's "demanded" thrust, with a computer helping you out, rather than having to fiddle and tweak to get the setting exactly right.

Doesn't absolve you from monitoring what the engines do in response to your throttle lever setting, be it in terms of N1 or EPR.

CJ

PS Yes, I'm scratching my head about some of the automation too. But I think you oversimplified....

111boy 6th March 2009 17:10

I thought that TLA meant "three letter abbreviation " no ?

ChristiaanJ 6th March 2009 17:27

111boy,
LOL (another three-letter abbreviation).
You'll probably find most of the three-letter ones are already used up, if not necessarily in aviation.

Even four- and five-letter ones that make a good acronym are getting rarer.

CJ

mr. small fry 6th March 2009 18:05

TLA has always meant Three Letter Abbreviation - and there are too f@@@king many of them for FOF's like me! VOR, ILS and ADF are all I can manage.

Tee Emm 8th March 2009 09:52


We know you are anti automation but take it from me. The world has moved on and the automation you dislike actually saves lives every day
Christ! I never realised that flying an aeroplane without the aid of a sophisticated autopilot was THAT dangerous....

FE Hoppy 8th March 2009 15:29

Tee Emm
 
Pop into your nearest ITU and have a look at the amount of automation used in delivery of drugs to the patients in there.

Just one of many examples where routine tasks have been automated.

ABS and traction control. How many previously fatal accidents have been avoided? Airbags and seat belt tensioners!!

The list is endless.

Automation is everywhere, not just in the cockpit.

BOAC 8th March 2009 15:30

Nothing can go wrong --- go wrong--go wrong--g---

Jetdoc 8th March 2009 15:42

TLAR is the Thrust Lever Angle Resolver. Thats the component that actually sends the thrust lever angle to the EEC.

FE Hoppy 8th March 2009 17:49

That looks about right Jetdoc.


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