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Dream Buster 23rd May 2010 19:45

German Unions & Contaminated air
 
It's good to see the German pilot / cabin crew unions being proactive about their workplace and safety....

German unions press release

.........Of all the countries in Europe, these are the ones who recognise that there are common sense solutions.

DB :D

Interflug 23rd May 2010 20:10

Interesting that Boeing's 787 is explicitly mentioned in the unions press release as an alternative...

Dream Buster 27th May 2010 16:26

A Guide for Health Care Providers - Feeling ill?
 
http://www.aerotoxic.org/download/do...ocol031909.pdf

The 'Best kept secret in aviation'.

DB :ok:

wbble 30th May 2010 08:58

Following the press release posted by Dream Buster, it's good to see the German unions speaking their mind and not siding with industry interests.

sueddeutsche.de: “Invisible poison intoxicates pilots”

FEHERTO 31st May 2010 06:02

It will be possible for all flight deck and cabin crew members to show their records to proove how often they had been eposed to "aircraft air environment".

But being a frequent flyer (more than 350.000 miles a year) and till now not writing down all my flight details, it will be nearly impossible to claim anything, if the subject is treated more seriously.

The reality is that I am more hours in an aircraft compared with some crews.

wbble 29th June 2010 07:39

Flight International
 
Good to see Flight International continuing to cover this issue. This time they are documenting the work of the Aerotoxic Association …

Work Experience – Revealing aviation's toxic secrets

JohnMcGhie 3rd September 2010 20:00

Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case
 
Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case

Been a long time coming, but sense prevails at last!

"A quarter of pilots who flew on the BAe 146 jet suffered long-term effects and could no longer work, a University of NSW survey found."

Cheers

Dream Buster 4th September 2010 14:51

BAE lose final Appeal in High Court
 
Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case

Game, set, match and championship to Joanne Turner.

"But airlines, aircraft manufacturers and the Civil Aviation Safety Authority say there is no evidence it is a danger." - very scary......

Never give up.

DB

:ok:

Dream Buster 14th November 2010 21:48

PhD Thesis - Contaminated cabin air.
 
At last, a thesis on contaminated cabin air.

The phoenix girl - Learmount

Congratulations - Dr Michaelis.

DB :D

wbble 27th March 2011 21:14

Sunday Express, 27 March 2011

http://www.aerotoxic.org/download/im...d-Air-Crew.gif

Shocking Toll of Poisoned Air Crew

AvMed.IN 28th March 2011 03:05

Aerotoxic Syndrome, though being talked about in commercial aviation sector, is not even a recognised illness or entity as far as medical sciences is concerned. But for the isolated efforts by few individuals, unions and even regulators like CAA and CASA, this may remain a unknown malady, with physicians the world over treating the symptoms of the affected individuals as anything other than aerotoxic syndrome!
Kudos to the German unions for being forthright in this matter.

wbble 28th March 2011 22:06

Yes indeed - the German unions are quoted in this article from Der Spiegel magazine. Their media has been giving this issue a lot of attention over the past couple of years.

http://www.aerotoxic.org/download/im...ter_Socken.gif


Der Spiegel: Gestank alter Socken (German)

Der Spiegel: Stench of old socks (English translation)

Dream Buster 30th March 2011 20:14

Cranfield University report
 
The long overdue Cranfield University report is meant to be published in the late spring of 2011 (originally 2010) to provide the 'urgent' answer of 'which substances are in the fumes' asked by the House of Lords in 2007.

Any bets that it will be published over Easter / Royal wedding on 29th April 2011 - a good time to dump bad news?

DB :zzz:

Shell Management 3rd April 2011 12:02

I predict no scientifically significant causal link will be found.

This is just like global warming, a scientific con.

Cuban9 9th April 2011 12:32

Shell Mismanagement
 
SM, if you beleive that, you are stupid; more likely you're part of the spin machine. If it looks like a duck................

Shell Management 9th April 2011 13:26

I'm sorry, but this is a matter of science.

Clearly there are some who would stoke a compensation culture in the hope of big payouts.

lomapaseo 9th April 2011 13:36

Shell Management

Your're playing with matches again in a tinder box of believers.

You could probably have some valid points. My summary of this is that engineers can not fix what they can't measure and that when all is said and done more will be said then done.

Shell Management 9th April 2011 14:09

If it can't be measured the chances are rather in favour of it not being there.:)

ECAM_Actions 9th April 2011 17:13

Cuban9 needs to open his eyes to the reality OIL is running out and the world is running around trying to figure out what to do when the black gold runs out.

Back on topic...

Is it more of a case of won't look rather can can't look, or did look but didn't find? If you don't look you can't see anything...

Why is it all these samples must be taken secretly? If there is nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear, right? :E

ECAM Actions.

Croqueteer 9th April 2011 21:14

:(Shell, It took time to agree that farmers were being killed by organophosphates in sheep dip, and eventually that was banned. I was a sceptic until I lost my kidneys three years ago after 17 years on the 146 due to my immune system running wild almost certainly the same problem as sheep dip.


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