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aseanaero 8th February 2009 04:52

F27-500 Landing Distance @ 5,100ft elevation ?
 
Hi all,

Would an F27-500 be able to land on a 1,700m runaway (asphalt) at 5,100ft ? Average temperature is 30 deg C

I won't have access to the performance charts for the aircraft until mid this week and can't find anything on the internet but need an answer in 24hrs for a potential deal.

Thanks !

411A 8th February 2009 06:49


Would an F27-500 be able to land on a 1,700m runaway (asphalt) at 5,100ft ? Average temperature is 30 deg C
Not a problem, did so with an FH227B (very similar) years ago.
However, departure would require water/methanol and 16 flaps for takeoff.

aseanaero 8th February 2009 07:04

Thanks 411A

How much runway ? 1,500m ?

I wouldn't have thought there was much room for error in pilot technique

411A 8th February 2009 07:19


How much runway ? 1,500m ?

That is cutting it close, but yes, will work....provided W/M is available, and used.

The 'ole Dart engine is a wonderful reliable unit, but needs W/M for optimum performance at higher altitudes/higher temperatures, make no mistake.
Personally, over 5000 hours in these airplanes, never had a Dart engine quit...RollsRoyce engines, superb.:ok:

aseanaero 8th February 2009 07:45

Thanks 411A

I see your in Arizona , nice place to be an aviation head , I have some clients in Tucson and Mesa and always enjoy going to Arizona , rental ride of choice is a Mustang convertible to enjoy the desert air.

Regards

Tony

Old Fella 8th February 2009 08:03

F27-500
 
aseanaero Try Googling www.bacgroup.co.uk/pdf/special%20offers.pdf and scroll through to page 7 of the document, Airfield Performance Data, which you may find helpful as indicative information.

aseanaero 8th February 2009 08:11

Thanks Old Fella

Although it doesn't go up to 5000ft elevation there's a lot of useful info in there for me to swat up on

Got to love this forum for digging out info ! :ok:

Old Fella 8th February 2009 10:14

F27 Ops
 
aseanaero. I am unsure just which models of F27 were used in PNG, however I do know they used to go into Goroka at 5200' AMSL and max rwy length available 5400', also into Mt Hagen at 5350' AMSL and max rwy length available about 6200'. Cheers Old Fella.

Doors to Automatic 8th February 2009 10:52

It operates into London City which is shorter (I think 1400m)

Mach E Avelli 8th February 2009 11:08

At those elevations and temperatures you need to think about approach/climb and landing/climb limits. The runway length part of the equation is the easy bit, for landing anyway. It will stop easily in 1500 metres on a dry runway. Depending on obstacles, you could be looking at zero flap for the takeoff to get the required climb gradient, so it starts to get tricky because that really affects accelerate-stop in a big way compared with 16 flap.
And you don't want novice pilots doing 26 flap landings in a -500 because eventually someone WILL scrape the tail.

PANDAMATENGA 8th February 2009 19:41

ASEAN

Operated F27-600 for several years out of Lesotho.

Elev 5100' Rwy 1380m

No probs at all even in summer 30c. 40 Pax although route time was only 1h30.

Water Meth was needed as 411A says.


Regards
PANDA

hoover1 9th February 2009 02:38

the only f-27 that are operated in the us are fedex feeders and they just retired the old birds. there is a skydiving outfit in the southwest that still operates one. the dart engine is very reliable and in the 25+ years our company operated the F we only had 2 engine failures and i got one of them . plane does fine on one.

aseanaero 9th February 2009 03:56

All good stuff , thanks everyone


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