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OutOfRunWay 2nd July 2008 10:41

Question from a bus driver
 
I always thought that all boeing autobrakes used a fixed braking force for a given autobrake setting, not like the bus which will produce a fixed deceleraton, modulating the brake force if reverse is used.

Please correct me if Im wrong.

regards,
OORW

BYALPHAINDIA 2nd July 2008 16:41

We don't use RT much now at TOM.

barit1 2nd July 2008 21:19


I always thought that all boeing autobrakes used a fixed braking force for a given autobrake setting, not like the bus which will produce a fixed deceleraton, modulating the brake force if reverse is used.

Please correct me if Im wrong.
Putting the shoe on the other foot -

Wouldn't it be nice if power management for TO was always set to achieve a known acceleration rate, based on R/W length and Vr (or some other speed)? You'd never be in coffin corner for TOGW error, brakes dragging, etc.

BYALPHAINDIA 2nd July 2008 23:33

Yes see what you mean, The T/O rate depended on the RWY length available, it would have been a good idea.

miss_heard 8th July 2008 11:05


Wasn't Ryanair, was it? ;):oh:
no, the other one

CL300 8th July 2008 11:24


barit1

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Wouldn't it be nice if power management for TO was always set to achieve a known acceleration rate, based on R/W length and Vr (or some other speed)? You'd never be in coffin corner for TOGW error, brakes dragging, etc.

yep this is called flex take Off...and you have a stopwatch for acceleration at 100 Kts..

POL.777 8th July 2008 16:36

OORW:
Boeing Autobrakes senses deceleration rate and modulates brake pressure accordingly. Application of reverse thrust will result in reduced braking pressure.
On the 737 NG the autobrake settings available are 1/2/3/max and RTO.
1 is equal to 1250 PSI and 4ft/sec scheduled deceleration
2: 1500 PSI 5 ft/sec
3: 2000 PSI 7.2 ft/sec
Max: 3000 PSI 14ft/sec above 80 kts. 12 ft/sec below 80 kts
RTO: 3000 PSI


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