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Engine falls off 747
CHICAGO (AP) A cargo plane bound for New York's Kennedy International Airport landed safely at Detroit Metropolitan Airport after losing an engine somewhere over Michigan. The Kalitta Air jet took off from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago late Wednesday. It later reported mechanical problems with one of its engines, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Chicago said. The Boeing 747-R was able to fly but was diverted as a safety precaution to Detroit, where it landed without incident, FAA officials said. No one was injured. After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks, the FAA said. |
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:ok: to that crew...I hope we find out more about it all...kudos again to that crew.
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this incident is almost 2 years old
happened on 20th october 2004 ship N709CK involved, went into service again about 3 weeks later |
This is like "a deja vu all over again", didn't this happen 20 Oct 2004, almost two years ago??
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Checked out the site where that link was housed...:hmm:
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:} Sorry webmaster
One of my mates sent it to me in an email and I thought it was new. |
Did they ever find the engine ?
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Same aircraft, 1997: :eek: (although from the blurb on Airliners it appears it was intended that time):
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/photoLink.inc?id=0224038 <SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JavaScript' SRC='http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/photoLink.inc?id=0224038' TYPE='text/javascript'></SCRIPT> - trying to post the thumbnail and if that doesn't work, http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file/0224038/M |
Nowadays the hardware that travels Kalitta and subsequently falls out of the sky is of a different calibre...
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WOW interesting tech log entry!
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Sunfish.....
.....someone else to add to your "no fly list"
B73 |
Just another B defect !!:}
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london wasp
Bet that was a nice little earner! Long time since I had a pylon off a 747.
We don't even get a keel beam repair these day.....someone taught the buggers how to land properly! B73. |
This story is from October TWO YEARS AGO!
Why is it being reportes as though it has just happened? |
so that's where in engine came from in donnie darko :}
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Originally Posted by theresalwaysone
WOW interesting tech log entry!
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I thought that Boeing fixed the pylon issue after the Amsterdam disaster.
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Originally Posted by Packsonflight
I thought that Boeing fixed the pylon issue after the Amsterdam disaster.
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There have been a number of engines falling off the 747 over the years. If the inboard, it has tended to take the outboard with it. Some have led to the loss of the aircraft, others (as here) manage to get away with it.
Notable is that if I am not mistaken it always seems to have happened to freighter aircraft. Yet they make up probably only 5% of the 747 fleet movements. Their max gross weight is obviously the same and many pax 747s go out up to gross anyway. I winder why this problem afflicts freighters. |
WHBM,
This particular incident was no fault of the airlines or the maintenence practices thereof. It was a bad part from the vendor that failed. It was the rear engine yoke that bolted to the flange of the engine case that failed. As far as freighters go, they typically are operated at max gross weights whereever they go, unlike pax birds. That takes a toll after many years. Also, freighters often go into rather rough airstrips in remote places around the world on regular basis, that too takes a toll. Do the math, it adds up. |
I don't think freighters particularly do gross out more than pax aircraft. Yes they may well do so in one direction, but because freight is by definition a one-way load rather than the two-way flow you get (eventually) with pax, they are left finding backloads which often come in well under gross.
Then you get lightweight loads that cube out (once read of about 15 tons of shaped polystyrene foam that filled a DC-10), and freighters also do a lot more completely empty positioning to get to where the load is coming from. And their utilisation in hours per year is invariably way below their passenger cousins. Meanwhile look at all the pax 747s operating through Heathrow, especially to/from Asia, they often seem to be up to gross in both directions. |
Originally Posted by WHBM
There have been a number of engines falling off the 747 over the years. If the inboard, it has tended to take the outboard with it. Some have led to the loss of the aircraft, others (as here) manage to get away with it.
Notable is that if I am not mistaken it always seems to have happened to freighter aircraft. Yet they make up probably only 5% of the 747 fleet movements. Their max gross weight is obviously the same and many pax 747s go out up to gross anyway. I winder why this problem afflicts freighters. |
WHBM,
I assure you, freighters do more often, takeoff and land at max gross weight than pax carriers, I have done both. Trust me! Flight mech, why don't you look at the turbulance penetrating speed for 747's before you shoot your mouth off. I think you'll find it very close to normal operating speed. And; Do you really think we want to shoot ourselves in the foot, rag our planes for no reason, and then have to deal with the ensueing emergemcies?? Me thinks not, ole chap. I personally want the company to stay around for another 15 years. |
Originally Posted by Willit Run
WHBM,
I assure you, freighters do more often, takeoff and land at max gross weight than pax carriers, I have done both. Trust me! Flight mech, why don't you look at the turbulance penetrating speed for 747's before you shoot your mouth off. I think you'll find it very close to normal operating speed. And; Do you really think we want to shoot ourselves in the foot, rag our planes for no reason, and then have to deal with the ensueing emergemcies?? Me thinks not, ole chap. I personally want the company to stay around for another 15 years. Chill out man. I wasn't exactly "shooting my mouth off". It was only mean't as a bit of light hearted banter and wasn't even directed at your company, just frieght dogs in general. I am fully aware that the freighter guys are just as professional and competent as the ones that carry the SLF. No offence intended but obviously caused. |
I'm sure some of u might remember the tragic incident in the netherlands when the no. 3 engine of a 747 freighter fell off ( rather flew off) at maximum thrust, came back, knocked the no. 4 engine off which completely cripled the right wing, reducing lift capailities. This eventually sent the big bird crashing into an occupied appartment block killing the crew and people on the ground. These accidents are the same, just with different outcomes. I suppose it depends on the curcumstances really.
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Originally Posted by Right-Hand-Man
I'm sure some of u might remember the tragic incident in the netherlands when the no. 3 engine of a 747 freighter fell off ( rather flew off) at maximum thrust, came back, knocked the no. 4 engine off which completely cripled the right wing, reducing lift capailities. This eventually sent the big bird crashing into an occupied appartment block killing the crew and people on the ground. These accidents are the same, just with different outcomes. I suppose it depends on the curcumstances really.
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HER MAJESTY WHAT A B**CH :ok: THAT GIRL HAS HEART!!! THAT IS A GANGTA AIRCRAFT:D :D :D
TO THE CREW HER SKILLFULL AND LOYAL SUBJECTS YOU HATH BEEN KNIGHTED :} :} :} rhov :ok: :E |
Originally Posted by Right-Hand-Man
I'm sure some of u might remember the tragic incident in the netherlands when the no. 3 engine of a 747 freighter fell off ( rather flew off) at maximum thrust, came back, knocked the no. 4 engine off which completely cripled the right wing, reducing lift capailities. This eventually sent the big bird crashing into an occupied appartment block killing the crew and people on the ground. These accidents are the same, just with different outcomes. I suppose it depends on the curcumstances really.
Don't forget that a lot of the freighters have enjoyed a previous life in a self loading cargo environment. Boeing may have come up with a fix, but the company will still have to implement it! |
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