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Magplug 17th October 2001 16:23

Ryanair SOP's
 
I sat there the other evening at LGW giving way to a Ryanair 73-200 that taxied in front of us through the pouring rain.

Every few seconds we saw the aircraft disappear in a cloud of spray as the reversers were deployed for up to 15 secs at a time. Loads of water and crap from the taxyway recirculated over & under the wings visibly being ingested down the engines.

We used to powerback on the -200 but is this a new Ryanair cost saving braking technique for the -200 ???

INLAK 17th October 2001 18:27

They do it all the time in DUB aswell!!

[ 17 October 2001: Message edited by: INLAK ]

Captain Eicas 17th October 2001 18:29

Sorry, I'm confused - are you suggesting Ryanair have SOPs ?

Devils Advocate 17th October 2001 18:42

It's probably coz he needed to slow down, i.e. have you seen how fast they taxi ?!

Captain Windsock 18th October 2001 01:11

If you think they taxi fast you want to see how fast they fly their descent profile.

eeper 18th October 2001 14:37

It ain't just Ryanair...I saw an Olympic 737-200 doing much the same thing at Athens a little while ago.

Tug 18th October 2001 19:20

Magplug; no it isn't. Just that a very few of the skippers like doing it. SOPs and ops manual state that the company prefer reverse thrust be stowed below 60 kts on the landing roll due FOD and pax comfort. Also most effective braking from reverse thrust occurs at the higher speeds ie; immediately after touchdown. Cos of the 25 min turnaround brake cooling is an issue, but on a cold wet windy day..?
Lots of urban myths out there, and there's bound to be one in favour of the bunch who do choose to use reverse thrust as a braking device during taxi. Hope that answers your question. :cool:

LRdriver 21st October 2001 23:21

This is also a trend seen amongst citation drivers.. a bad habit to say the least.
In reference to Descent profiles, what speed do you speedbirders use? I seem to get caught behind a slow S'bird everytime I go into LFMN.. what is it, idle descent or 280IAS that you use?
Reason I ask is that we plan 320-300IAS on a normal profile.

BOAC 22nd October 2001 02:03

Boeing permit use of reverse for slowing a/c on ground on the 200, but not on CFMs. Dodgy in winter with engine icing.

Speed wise, normal descent is 'econ' from the FMC. That varies between 250 and 320 depending on Cost index. 280 is the norm.

300/320 - isn't that a bit fast for a balloon?

I take it you are Easyjet desperately trying for a few more minutes on the t/r?

[ 21 October 2001: Message edited by: BOAC ]

Gypsy 22nd October 2001 10:38

For your info, eJ fly 250 kts below 10K unless INSTRUCTED to go faster by ATC. We're not desperate for anything!

Nightcap 24th October 2001 21:00

Yeah its easier to think at that speed? Isnt it! :D

4u :cool:


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