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shon7 22nd Mar 2002 06:13

FMS/FMC in the 747-100/200/300
 
Did the 747-100/200 have a FMS/FMC? How was it different than the ones in the 47-400s?

mutt 22nd Mar 2002 07:16

Most of them have an old fashioned PPS or PMS, but some airlines have retrofitted FMS's. . .. .Mutt

tinyrice 22nd Mar 2002 08:29

The 747-100 and early -7F models of the 747-200 didn't have anything except the autopilots and a very Mark 1 Autothrottle. The later -7Q and -7r powered 747-200/300's had a Performance Management System (PMS) retrofit that worked OK if the EPR and CADC interfaces were working as published.

Flight Detent 22nd Mar 2002 09:39

Hi all,. .We have some -200 freighters (RR D4s), fitted with FMS!. .Cheers.

shon7 23rd Mar 2002 03:08

PMS would just measure performance, how about flying to waypoints, navaids- was everything done manually?. .. .Also what about approaches, could you do a coupled approach or not?

twistedenginestarter 23rd Mar 2002 03:34

The approach is managed by the autopilots not the FMC.

twistedenginestarter 23rd Mar 2002 03:41

Sorry, as regards navigation, typically classics have INS so you can enter your waypoints into this and then slave the autopilot to it.

shon7 23rd Mar 2002 22:28

Thanks for the reply twistedenginestarter. I had it all wrong about the FMS. I just assumed some things like the coupled approaches - but as my coach would say, "Never assume because it makes an ass out of U and ME."

olivasnooze 24th Mar 2002 05:12

The classic 2/300's I fly don't have a PMS or FMC. Just the good old carousel IV INS.. . This highly advanced unit has some desirable features, like built in track offset.

Flight Detent 25th Mar 2002 14:56

Yes, but unfortunately, you have to also type in EVERY single waypoint, with a maximum of 9 each time.. .In this day and age, with aircraft flying at Mach .86, but that's another story, we still have flight plans with under 10 minutes between waypoints, in a relatively straight line, where the local ATC want us to report, I really can't imagine why, with estimates given for each one well in advance, ahh, am I talking about Indian airspace again, silly me!. .With the capability of only 9 waypoints, it certainly keeps you busy.. .Cheers!


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