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extricate 24th Jul 2021 06:17

Flaps 30 or Flaps 25 for landing in a gust?
 
Hi there,

What is your take? Care to comment?

Flaps 30 lower stall speed but a larger portion of flaps are exposed to gust load. What is ur take?


FlyingStone 24th Jul 2021 07:09

Not sure about what your type is, but generally you want lower flaps in gusty conditions, as you generally have more margin to Vfe (Vref increases less than the Vfe) and better performance in case of go-around/windshear escape manuever.

vilas 24th Jul 2021 07:51

I have answered this before for Airbus 320.
​​​​ For better handling it's Flap full in turbulence or gust and Flap3 if expecting windshear for better performance. The aircraft is more sensitive in flap3.

OPEN DES 24th Jul 2021 08:58

OFF TOPIC

This is only the case for the A320 series. A330/340/350/380 no difference.

vilas 24th Jul 2021 10:37

I should have said A320. Correcting in earlier post.

B2N2 24th Jul 2021 15:00

Gust load as in a VG diagram is a vertical gust and not a horizontally veering wind gust in a surface wind.
You’re not increasing the G-loading on the airplane with a gusting crosswind.
In a light GA airplane I would go with the lesser flap setting as go around climb performance tends to be very anemic with full flap.
In large aircraft you would increase Vref with half the headwind component and the full gust.
Obviously with a maximum.
In that case you would usually go with the lower flap setting as you would get close to the max flap speed.
Both cases flap 25.

Kima 25th Jul 2021 02:16

Flaps 30 & 25 are normal flap settings for both the B777 & B787, Flaps 25 gives a 3 knots increase in Vref compared to Flaps 30 but an increase in marging to Vfe as mentioned by other posters, combine this with better handling and windshear go around characteristics a lower flap setting is always recommended when flying in gusty conditions if performance allows.

stilton 25th Jul 2021 07:12

I found F25 in the 757 made life significantly easier in gusty conditions, you didn’t need that additional lift and drag of F30, you almost had to shoot it down anyway as it was more like a big kite

With F25 it went where you put it, furthermore the nosewheel could be lowered nice and gently,,whereas with F30 it could really crash down if you didn’t pay attention as a few crews have discovered and a few airframes badly damaged or even written off

The lower flap setting changed the target speed by 3 knots and made the 757 handle so much better I started using it for every landing

rudestuff 25th Jul 2021 19:25

Same on the 767. I haven't used flap 30 in months.


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