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Smooth Airperator 8th Nov 2019 03:45

A320 - RA 1 + 2 FAULT, gusty 30 xwind, upwind engine failed
 
No, this isn't the stuff nightmares are made out of. This is a regular scenario on sim checks in China for expat pilots. This is not something serious companies practice in the sim as part of the initial training or any particular LOE session and my only guess is that the Chinese pain masters want to assess stick/rudder skills with the aircraft in Direct Law (after gear down).

A lot of the newer sims are twitchy beasts compared to the real aircraft even in Normal Law and so I seriously doubt any A320 simulator is going to display accurate behaviour when being manually handled by the pilot in this scenario.

My question is, how would YOU expect the aircraft to behave on approach, particularly in terms of airspeed each time there is a destabilising gust? How would you handle it? I appreciate, it's a completely stupid scenario that has never happened in the history of aviation. Guesses are welcome!

Thanks

hans brinker 8th Nov 2019 04:39


Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator (Post 10613665)
No, this isn't the stuff nightmares are made out of. This is a regular scenario on sim checks in China for expat pilots. This is not something serious companies practice in the sim as part of the initial training or any particular LOE session and my only guess is that the Chinese pain masters want to assess stick/rudder skills with the aircraft in Direct Law (after gear down).

A lot of the newer sims are twitchy beasts compared to the real aircraft even in Normal Law and so I seriously doubt any A320 simulator is going to display accurate behaviour when being manually handled by the pilot in this scenario.

My question is, how would YOU expect the aircraft to behave on approach, particularly in terms of airspeed each time there is a destabilising gust? How would you handle it? I appreciate, it's a completely stupid scenario that has never happened in the history of aviation. Guesses are welcome!

Thanks

Well, I would think there's no need for expat pilots if all of their abundantly available AB-INITIO captains could handle these scenarios....

joe falchetto 64 8th Nov 2019 21:17


Originally Posted by hans brinker (Post 10613673)
Well, I would think there's no need for expat pilots if all of their abundantly available AB-INITIO captains could handle these scenarios....

“Abudantly available” ?

Tail-take-off 9th Nov 2019 10:22

I’d use my superior decision making skills and divert to somewhere less challenging to avoid having to use my inferior manual flying skills!

noptawat 10th Nov 2019 06:48


A lot of the newer sims are twitchy beasts compared to the real aircraft even in Normal Law and so I seriously doubt any A320 simulator is going to display accurate behaviour when being manually handled by the pilot in this scenario.
LMFAO! I just config the aircraft to be absolutely stable with landing flaps in final approach ( hopefully not OW.) then just put the gear down and add some kind of power :) EZ!

neilki 11th Nov 2019 21:42

Sign me up!
 

Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator (Post 10613665)
No, this isn't the stuff nightmares are made out of. This is a regular scenario on sim checks in China for expat pilots. This is not something serious companies practice in the sim as part of the initial training or any particular LOE session and my only guess is that the Chinese pain masters want to assess stick/rudder skills with the aircraft in Direct Law (after gear down).

A lot of the newer sims are twitchy beasts compared to the real aircraft even in Normal Law and so I seriously doubt any A320 simulator is going to display accurate behaviour when being manually handled by the pilot in this scenario.

My question is, how would YOU expect the aircraft to behave on approach, particularly in terms of airspeed each time there is a destabilising gust? How would you handle it? I appreciate, it's a completely stupid scenario that has never happened in the history of aviation. Guesses are welcome!

Thanks

I'm in! when's the next flight to "Not China"..??

FlightDetent 12th Nov 2019 17:01

I thought the proving stone was FAC 1+2 (YD lost) OEI gusty X-wind.


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