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A321 NEO autoland prohibition
There is a temporary prohibition in the FCOM limitations section prohibiting autolands in CFM powered A321 NEO aircraft. Does anybody happen to know why? |
Do you have a source for that ?
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"CAT 2, CAT 3 (single or dual) automatic approaches and Autoland are not authorized. This restriction applies and superseeds all limitations concerning CAT 2, CAT 3 and Autoland in the following sections of the FCOM. The flight crews must apply CAT 1 minima for ILS /GLS approaches, and must not use the Autoland function." It is an FCOM Tdu This limitation is issued to inform neo Operators of an operational limitation that restricts the aircraft approach capability and Autoland capability. The release of a new FG standard will remove this limitation. |
Hmm Only the 321? Interresting |
I was wondering if has something to do with the rigging angles of the flaps as the A321Neo has been altered to make the heavyweight ones approach CAT C again. Rumour at one A321 neo operator was that it was to do with clearance of the exhaust cone on touchdown |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10224526)
"CAT 2, CAT 3 (single or dual) automatic approaches and Autoland are not authorized. CAT 2 auto approaches "are not authorized" also. |
Read it again. The autoland function is not to be used. Airbus expect the autoland function to be used in typical line ops though some operators on partcularly windy norhern islands seem keen to fly a Cat 2 and then perform a manual landing, often up to the max crosswind capability of the aircraft. |
I simply don't get it.
The flight crews must apply CAT 1 minima for ILS /GLS approaches, and must not use the Autoland function." Stand to be corrected. |
Airbus expect a Cat 2 to utilise the autoland function. |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10224786)
Airbus expect a Cat 2 to utilise the autoland function. |
Originally Posted by gearlever
(Post 10224792)
In this case the FCOM Tdu IMHO should simply say "NO AUTOLAND".
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Are they under an AD of some sort? Just curious
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The company I work for recently introduced the 321 and the fcom has the above Autoland limitations. But a very recent notice to crew describing the differences has cancelled the fcom autoland limitation. |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10224761)
Read it again.
I was wondering if has something to do with the rigging angles of the flaps |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10224786)
Airbus expect a Cat 2 to utilise the autoland function. |
Originally Posted by Major Cleve Saville
(Post 10226644)
The certification process for CAT II is for/assumes a manual landing.
“The automatic landing is the preferred landing technique in CAT II conditions” |
Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 10226613)
I had to several times to get the sense. Pity those non-lawyers for whom English is not their first language.
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The question really is what is an automatic approach. Don't you need the autopilot to minima even with a CATII manual landing?
Also the wording regarding minima clearly states no approaches to CATII minima. Even if it appends not autoland, it is clear regarding the other point. If it really excludes manually landed CATII approaches i would be very surprised. |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10224526)
" The flight crews must apply CAT 1 minima for ILS /GLS approaches, and must not use the Autoland function." |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 10226707)
From the FCTM “The automatic landing is the preferred landing technique in CAT II conditions” |
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