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EIFFS 3rd Oct 2017 15:39

Having operated the max in/out of SWF & BDL during the recent hot spell ( north of 30c) I have been very impressed with the performance margin and have not needed to even look at bleeds off, all are SFP aircraft, the fuel burn reduction is a big plus.

Winter ops bring fresh challenges of course, but many of the pilots operating these routes have a lot of experience with contaminated runways into Norway

rog747 3rd Oct 2017 16:29

seems my source at Norwegian a skipper on 738NG and the new MAX says GIB is a no go for them or infact likely for anyone with these types on an airline op.

its an A320 757 or a 737 classic mission or a 737-700 at best for GIB

sadly Monarch will not now be gong there anymore anyway

they have 45 MAX orders up for sale as now not wanted

EIFFS 4th Oct 2017 01:35

Rog747

Not correct, based on 09 1013 000/0 +25c with bleeds off I calculate a MTOM of 73.3 so given max landing is 69.0 I don't see back to the UK as a problem.

The landing is more of a challenge but still above MLM with F40, not a big margin I'll grant you but 160 pax would be no issue.

The SFP makes a huge difference, I have landed at GIB in a 300 and stopped before the road.

nomorecatering 4th Oct 2017 04:26

According to Google Earth, they are well underway on a runway extension that makes the runway TODA about 2700m (8800 feet). That should be plenty.

rog747 4th Oct 2017 09:20


Originally Posted by EIFFS (Post 9913473)
Rog747

Not correct, based on 09 1013 000/0 +25c with bleeds off I calculate a MTOM of 73.3 so given max landing is 69.0 I don't see back to the UK as a problem.

The landing is more of a challenge but still above MLM with F40, not a big margin I'll grant you but 160 pax would be no issue.

The SFP makes a huge difference, I have landed at GIB in a 300 and stopped before the road.

thank you for that - my pal at DY says they (DY) would be restricted on LDW to around 62 tonnes on GIB's 09 -
I assume a non-SFP a/c (738NG 73H)

the MAX has not AFAIK been developed yet with a SFP option although has been talked about

restricting payload by around 30 pax is quite a biggy from 189 to as you say about 160 - not sure if any airline ops would welcome that as either functional or economical?

the classic 300/400 to 700 (73G) series which can go in there now have no problems as you stated with a -300 thanks

JT8D-17 23rd Nov 2017 21:30

Would anyone have 737 Max FCOM/FCTM available to send me via PM? My company are not due to get them for a few years. Any other interesting MAX documents would be also appreciated.

rog747 9th Apr 2018 13:57


Originally Posted by Skyjob (Post 9705743)
I think it will all be fine, after all the BBJ serviced for KLM used to fly AMS-IAH with some AUX tanks not even a decade ago.
That was non-stop, nil diversions (due fuel)

yeah but with a J load only - not 189Y

Pugilistic Animus 16th Apr 2018 04:51

It's wishing it were a 757 but clearly it is NOT! Actually the MTOW of a 752 is 255000 lbs...but according to some media or tabloids papers the 737 can currently carry up to 40000 Tons of fuel that is 40 kilotons :}


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