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MickG0105 31st Aug 2016 06:31

B777 Back-up electrical system - TCAS
 
As I understand it if the power to one or both of the main AC busses is lost the backup electrical system automatically powers one or both transfer busses as required. To reduce electrical loading on the backup generator, the TCAS is not powered and is therefore inoperative.
Does shedding power to the TCAS have any impact on other Mode S transponder functions? (eg is ATC SSR impacted?)

Amadis of Gaul 1st Sep 2016 15:08

If you lost both main busses, I'd think the transponder would be the very least of your worries.

MickG0105 2nd Sep 2016 22:02


Originally Posted by Amadis of Gaul (Post 9493530)
If you lost both main busses, I'd think the transponder would be the very least of your worries.

If you're looking to ATC for a vector it's helpful if they can actually see you.

NSEU 3rd Sep 2016 06:12

The Left ATC Transponder is on the Standby Bus. Surely that would be working (along with most of the essential inputs).

Amadis of Gaul 3rd Sep 2016 12:28


Originally Posted by MickG0105 (Post 9495029)
If you're looking to ATC for a vector it's helpful if they can actually see you.

Indeed. Still, I suspect it won't be problem #1.

MickG0105 3rd Sep 2016 21:34


Originally Posted by Amadis of Gaul (Post 9495554)
Indeed. Still, I suspect it won't be problem #1.

Your suspicions and prioritisation of problems aside, can you help answer the question, Does shedding power to the TCAS have any impact on other Mode S transponder functions? (eg is ATC SSR impacted?)

MickG0105 3rd Sep 2016 21:51


Originally Posted by NSEU (Post 9495301)
The Left ATC Transponder is on the Standby Bus. Surely that would be working (along with most of the essential inputs).

Thanks for that. What I'm trying to understand though is the impact of ELMS load shedding to the TCAS on other S band functions such as ATC SSR.

Amadis of Gaul 4th Sep 2016 12:00


Originally Posted by MickG0105

Your suspicions and prioritisation of problems aside, can you help answer the question, Does shedding power to the TCAS have any impact on other Mode S transponder functions? (eg is ATC SSR impacted?)

My conjecture would be that if the manual was specific enough to tell you that you'd lose TCAS, it would also mention that you lose the entire transponder, if that were, indeed, the case. Then again, how much power does TCAS really take?

sleeve of wizard 5th Sep 2016 23:17

In flight if both transfer busses are unpowered the APU starts automatically regardless of APU switch position. 2 Backup generators (considered to be 1 generator) plus the APU generator will provide sufficient power to satisfy most electrical loads.

MickG0105 6th Sep 2016 00:57


Originally Posted by sleeve of wizard (Post 9498078)
In flight if both transfer busses are unpowered the APU starts automatically regardless of APU switch position. 2 Backup generators (considered to be 1 generator) plus the APU generator will provide sufficient power to satisfy most electrical loads.

Thank you, SoW.


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