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underfire 8th Jul 2016 03:56

Draft beer on aircraft
 
FINALLY, potential for good beer on the aircraft (heineken :*)

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines is gearing up to be the first airline to serve draught beer on tap.
The game-changing development will follow years of experimenting with keg designs to produce the perfect schooner at high altitude.
Dutch brewing giant Heineken found the winning formula with an innovative keg design, and the prototype will be used on KLM’s European flights.
The carrier had hoped to launch the tap service earlier this month but had to postpone it until it secured the necessary safety certificates from civil aviation authorities.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a...d47a91cd6935a3

KLM Airlines to offer Heineken beer on tap during flights in world first

FlightDetent 8th Jul 2016 07:06

Common sight in late 70s, Tupolev 104.

As if everything today, is just a shadow of the real item in past. Heineken rusty water included:ooh:

oggers 8th Jul 2016 08:09

Heineken refreshes the parts other beers cannot reach. Known fact.

vctenderness 8th Jul 2016 08:36

Was served on the upper deck lounge of BOAC 747's in the 1970's. Not as sophisticated as the KLM version but was obtained from a 'pipkin' and tap.

WeeJeem 8th Jul 2016 08:44


It was one big jigsaw puzzle, as the keg of beer, the cooling system and the air pressure compressor all had to fit in an airline catering trolley.
In the end we had to leave out one of those pieces to make it all fit, so with pain in our hearts we had to leave the cooling behind.
Warm beer at 36,000ft - what more could a traveller want? :p

Pegpilot 8th Jul 2016 09:41

Good luck finding the cellar to change the barrel.....

hoss183 8th Jul 2016 11:45

I can attest that draught beer on dive cruise boats is usually a disaster with the wave motion. Takes 1/2 hour to pour and is 80% head.
They must have done something clever with the barrel...

lomapaseo 8th Jul 2016 13:20

Hmm, with the air pressure differential what happens when one of these blows?

Skornogr4phy 8th Jul 2016 14:51

The same thing that happens in all those detonating beer keg fatalities you see at ski resorts...

MATELO 8th Jul 2016 15:31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt4i80e1zw

tdracer 8th Jul 2016 19:33

I seldom drink beer in-flight anymore - it just doesn't taste right at altitude. Sometimes, when I've scored a seat in the front, I'll ask for a beer before takeoff and it tastes fine. But if I get that same beer at 35k its not the same. Bloody Mary's on the other hand taste better at altitude :O


Maybe on a 787 or A380 that's pressurized to a lower altitude beer would be OK...

lomapaseo 8th Jul 2016 20:32


it just doesn't taste right at altitude. Sometimes, when I've scored a seat in the front, I'll ask for a beer before takeoff and it tastes fine. But if I get that same beer at 35k its not the same. Bloody Mary's on the other hand taste better at altitude
Maybe on a 787 or A380 that's pressurized to a lower altitude beer would be OK...
you can achieve the same result if you put your thumb over the top of the bottle and shake it vigorously before pouring.

tdracer 8th Jul 2016 21:10


you can achieve the same result if you put your thumb over the top of the bottle and shake it vigorously before pouring.
That's more apt to result in a shower of beer over the surrounding passengers and no further alcohol being served to the shaker :uhoh:.

BTW, I've never seen beer served in bottles on an airplane - it's always cans.

underfire 8th Jul 2016 22:33

back the the mid 80s, I flew Lufthansa quite a bit, the German beer then was in bottles.

I cant see the crew taking the time to pour a draft. (even in the promo pic, the foam is half the beer!) Its probably closer to drawn beer, which is low pressure.

Would you like a draft beer?
why yes, what do you have...
Heineken..
oh...

Volume 12th Jul 2016 12:41

Those were the days... When beer kegs and gliders were made from wood ;)
However, Draft beer with Lobster? Maybe wine is the better option. But on KLM flights, there will probably no lobster, contrary to Lufthansa in the 60s...

PAX_Britannica 13th Jul 2016 08:35

Yorkshire Airlines has been providing this for years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLYpKGVBUg

underfire 10th Aug 2016 06:44

https://crikey-uploads.s3.amazonaws....-1-610x442.jpg

underfire 10th Aug 2016 06:50

But WAIT...ANA claims first on tap airline..

http://www.airlinetrends.com/wp-cont...p_a680x200.jpg

http://www.airlinetrends.com/2010/07...ht-draft-beer/

dixi188 10th Aug 2016 13:34

On the subject of beer, how come "Miller Genuine Draft" comes in bottles?

PilotSchools 10th Aug 2016 14:10

I like that most international flights and a few domestic put out the effort to now have a few craft beer selections. I get sick of Bud Light and Miller Genuine Crap. My last Air Canada flight to France had a Black IPA by Alaskan brewery that was delicious.


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