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eveares 9th May 2016 18:27

Would you abort or continue if you suddenly lost all engines between V1 and V2?
 
For the commercial pilots out there, if you ended up loosing all engines after V1 but before you or just after you had reached V2, what action would you take?

And do you commercial pilots train for such an event in the simulator?

Regards: Elliott

mustafagander 10th May 2016 10:18

I'm very curious to know what choices you actually have with no engines running.

Dufo 10th May 2016 10:20

In this case I would make the CVR data unavailable to the public (not by pulling the CB though..). Not much you can do really.

PDR1 10th May 2016 10:21

He didn't say they weren't running, only that he couldn't find them. Personally my first action would be to initiate a brief search and see if they turn up...

PDR

Capt Scribble 10th May 2016 10:25

Stop as quickly as you can. This may mean running off the end but on longer runways, probably not. There are no other options.

sabenaboy 10th May 2016 10:31

I would continue the take-off, turn downwind immediately and only consider restarting the engines if my chem trail tanks are empty. Otherwise I'd consider gliding it to a landing in the closest river and dump the fluid there like Sully did.

ZFT 10th May 2016 11:02

A loose engine is not normally on the simulator's malfunction list

RAT 5 10th May 2016 11:11

change fuel tanks, check mags to both then Start, recycle carb heat and mixture: if all else fails head between legs, kiss your arse goodbye and plant it straight ahead ASAP. V2 is very close to the end of the runway and at <100' so no time to 'pick a field.'
Then ask ops to get on the phone and ask for your money back on not 1 but 2 or even more duff engines.
Damn; must remember to drain the fuel next time.
As for the training of such a scenario, No. If you're thinking of the Hudson glider, they were lucky to have height to play with. Some companies do train for total loss of thrust on finals, a la BA 777 at LHR. Train being a lose word. Experience the WTF moment, try it a couple of different ways with moving, or not, the flaps and see just how lucky the crew-pax- and all innocent ground based inhabitants were in the BA event. The Thames was not an option.

Capt Claret 10th May 2016 11:49

Sadly I have nothing to add to the excellent responses above! :}

john_tullamarine 10th May 2016 11:52

I guess it's time to put this one to bed and tuck it in goodnight ... for the OP, as the other folk have indicated .. you are either going to stop on the runway (if things are really going your way)... or crash. Can't really see too many other feasible options .. although I like RAT 5's optimism.


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