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galaxy flyer 10th Mar 2016 02:23
Oicur,

Following the published miss will work for the first go; less so for numbers 2-5. Also if they are running converging runways, it will get real dicey.

GF

RAT 5 10th Mar 2016 08:46
Scenario: STN. A/C lined up and given takeoff clearance. He is tardy and is taking a long time. (we've heard stories about no cabin secure etc.) ATC says to a/c on finals, "continue, expect late landing clearance." All seems fine. ATC gets nervous and at 200' calls a G/A just as ground traffic starts to roll. The GA route stops at 3000' and is exactly the same as the SID which stops at 4000'.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.

Intruder 10th Mar 2016 13:50
You go around. If you can keep the other airplane in sight, do so. If you pass him and/or lose sight, tell Tower so he can give both of you vectors as necessary.

TypeIV 10th Mar 2016 22:20
Scenario: STN. A/C lined up and given takeoff clearance. He is tardy and is taking a long time. (we've heard stories about no cabin secure etc.) ATC says to a/c on finals, "continue, expect late landing clearance." All seems fine. ATC gets nervous and at 200' calls a G/A just as ground traffic starts to roll. The GA route stops at 3000' and is exactly the same as the SID which stops at 4000'.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.
I would go around and maybe deliberately offset the track to keep the traffic in sight if VMC, there's still a possibility for the rolling traffic to reject the takeoff.

Bleeds off and climb like I mean it to 4000ft and convince traffic below to level off at 3000 or before.

good egg 11th Mar 2016 16:26
Thread drift
 
Thanks for replies so far :)

Another query....
Let's assume other protocols are in place for low visibility operations...in VMC is there a limit in your SOPs where if you see the runway is still blocked you would perform a missed approach? If so, is this below your minima? (I'm thinking about CAT I approaches btw)

RAT 5 11th Mar 2016 16:37
Has "one on, land after" been cancelled?

good egg 11th Mar 2016 19:43
No, you've been told "expect late landing clearance, departure ahead"

good egg 22nd Mar 2016 19:29
So, provided you're also provided with a reason why (e.g. Departure ahead) are you in favour of "Expect late landing clearance [reason]" or would you prefer "Continue approach [reason]" ???


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