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speedbird787 29th Jun 2015 18:52

humidifiers in cockpits
 
Read an article about humidifiers available on lufthansa first class cabin.....what about humidifiers in cockpits to keep the crew at ease ..comments pls

Avionker 29th Jun 2015 19:07

It's a while since I worked on them but I believe that 747-400's have a flight deck humidifier. Whether it is standard equipment, or an option, I'm not sure.

deptrai 29th Jun 2015 19:12

https://assets.digital.cabinet-offic...pdf_501805.pdf

JammedStab 29th Jun 2015 19:44


Originally Posted by Avionker (Post 9028611)
It's a while since I worked on them but I believe that 747-400's have a flight deck humidifier. Whether it is standard equipment, or an option, I'm not sure.

Trust me...its only an option. Same with 777's.

Dan Winterland 29th Jun 2015 20:14

Virgin 744s had it, but it was disabled in 2002. Prevention of corrosion of the overhead panel switched was cited, but we suspected it was the savings from lower fuel burn due to the fact we had to uplift less water was the real reason.

VC10s had the ability to humidify the whole cabin.

deptrai 29th Jun 2015 20:15

some airlines that had purchased the option deactivated them...and some humidifiers created more problems than they solved: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/26240...-aircraft.html

edit: another interesting blast from the past on this issue, found at spectators balcony http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...r-quality.html

newer optional cockpit and crew rest humifidiers, such as on A380, B787 seem to be based on different technology (evaporative cooling)

and if someone wants to ask why airlines consider paying for humidifiers in cockpits, crew rest, and first class cabins, it's because humidity there is lower than in other areas where the density of bipedal humidifiers is higher.

jaytee54 1st Jul 2015 21:24

When I flew the 744 in BA, '93 to late '95, the humidifiers had been deactivated (maybe even removed).
The reason given was that the cold metal parts accumulated large amount of ice during cruise, which melted and dripped on the crew on approach.

4andersson 7th Apr 2017 08:56

Humidifiers
 
Hi, the progress of cockpit and crew humidifiers have develop during the last years. Since the above post are rather old I have a question about CTT systems humidifiers, Cair. Does anyone have good or bad experiences of it?

How It Works - CTT | CTT

Also, since Im not flying so much anymore, in your opinion, if you fly long hours without humidifiers, what long-term physiological effects has it on you personally?

Airmann 7th Apr 2017 18:57

My understanding is that humidity was kept low on aircraft due to corrosion issues. So not sure why they were an option on some aircraft. But it seems that in nearly all instances e airlines deactivated them due to corrosion and/or wear issues, especially for avionics in the cockpit.

I know a 787 operator that is very unhappy with the extra humidity in the cockpit, because even though the aircraft structure (being cfrp) can easily handle the extra humidity (from 5% on standard aluminum frames to 15% on 787) there are many other components on the aircraft that are suffering.

The 350 comes with an optional cockpit humidifier, however, I have yet to find a picture of a 350 cockpit from any airline where that option is installed.

Roj approved 7th Apr 2017 22:20

The 787 has one, as I understand it (very little in the FCOM) it uses water from the water tank and/or from the recirculated air.

There is an on/off switch on the overhead panel.

If it cost money to run it, my company would permanently disable it in the name of fuel savings, but they haven't, so maybe it doesn't

Chris Scott 7th Apr 2017 23:21

Might have to turn it off a couple of hours or so before landing to allow the frost to sublime before descent - particularly in coastal areas in the tropics. Otherwise the flight crew and avionics may get over-hydrated... The grizzled F/Es always did so on the VC10. One way of assessing the degree of frost is the unheated peripheri of the side windows, which may gather it.

Old Fella 8th Apr 2017 05:26

Not a new concept, cockpit humidifiers. The B707-300's I operated had them and they were missed when u/s. I have also worked where the company provided spray-packs of Avian water to tech crew. A personal re-humidifier of sorts.

OK4Wire 8th Apr 2017 06:56

You might be old, OF, but they are still Evian bottles! The avian stuff is in the markets...


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