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Centaurus 23rd Sep 2012 10:45

The potential danger of total battery failure in the 737-300.
 
Many years ago in a New Zealand 737-200 when the cargo hold door was opened after engine shut-down smoke was seen coming from that area or it might have been the E&E Bay, I don't remember. Investigation revealed a battery defect. It was not known when the battery defect occurred. A Notice to Pilots was issued requiring crews to monitor the battery voltage during APU start and if the voltage was less than 15 volts at any time during the APU start cycle the battery was defective and rectification action taken before the aircraft flew. The technical reason given was that the APU start requires battery power and it is only then that the true condition of the battery is checked.

Fast forward to the January 2002 accident to a Garuda Indonesia B737-300 that flew into a 63,000 ft thunderstorm causing both engines to flame out on descent. Relight was unsuccessful as the aircraft was still in heavy rain. The crew tried to start the APU but then a total electrical failure occurred leaving the crew with loss of both engines and loss of all electrical power in IMC.

The aircraft broke out of cloud at 8000 ft and ditched flapless into a shallow river with only one fatality. Later investigation revealed that one of the cells of the battery had been found to have a lower electrolyte level to the point causing insufficient current storage. It caused a high resistence and resulted in the battery voltage drop which accounted for the reported failure of the battery. The loss of the battery liquid was due to a spewing effect (i.e. convective movement of electrolyte out of the cell).

The spewing was caused by high temperature and over-charging. The reason why the high temperature and over-charging could occur was the absence of the high temperature sensor on the battery the function of which is to stop charging when the battery temperature is too high. The detchment of the temperature sensor was due to corrosion of the sensor mounting.

An interview with the pilot revealed that the battery was at 22 volts when re-start was initiated. This fact was used to develop a battery test. The test revealed the battery will run out of power before the APU start sequence could be completed it it indicates less than 22 volts at the beginning of the procedure. From wreckage examination it was found the APU inlet door and the APU fuel shut-off valve were still in the closed position. This indicated the APU start process failed at the initial stage. It was concluded that the battery had already run out of power at the initial stage of the APU start. Following this event the ignition system may also fail because the electrical power remaining was insufficient.

Question: The B737 FCOM does not require the crew to monitor the battery volts drop that will occur at the instant of the APU start cycle. This despite the fact that max load will be on the battery at the instant of APU start. In other words, the only time the crew can check on the true health of the battery is at the start of the APU start cycle. if that statement is correct then I wonder why Boeing do not mention the fact. It seems a good precaution to me. Are there alternative crew methods of checking the true health of the battery in-flight or on the ground?

Checkboard 23rd Sep 2012 11:08

You are not required to monitor the batt. voltage during APU start? I remember always doing so, but it might have been my personal procedure. :confused:

The memory fades now that I have changed aircraft.

de facto 23rd Sep 2012 12:32


A Notice to Pilots was issued requiring crews to monitor the battery voltage during APU start and if the voltage was less than 15 volts at any time during the APU start cycle the battery was defective and rectification action taken before the aircraft flew. The technical reason given was that the APU start requires battery power and it is only then that the true condition of the battery is checked.

The true condition of the battery is indeed seen during Apu start as the charger is not in charge mode during apu starts.(NG,not sure about CL).


Are there alternative crew methods of checking the true health of the battery in-flight or on the ground?
The battery charger kicks in when DC is 23v and stops when back to 28v.
The charger cannot go in charge mode during APU start or if no power on transfer bus 1.
So if you want to see if the charger is working too frequently(battery health?),on the ground have the apu on bus and check the DC meter for positive DC Amps,if it does the charger is in charge phase.
Same in the air.
My airline Sop is to keep the dc amp on BAT.

NG has an auxiliary bat and charger just in case:)

At the end of the day,dont fly into a 63000 ft Storm:*

JQKA 23rd Sep 2012 15:06

I confirm De facto is right and still the same on CL.
And I add that when the APU has finished starting on initial power up for the day the DC amp meter should show a large charge indication after the Right GEN BUS switch is placed ON. When putting the Left GEN BUS switch on the DC amps meter should “flicker” and return to a large charge indication. This check will show that the alternate and primary power sources for the BATTERY CHARGER are operational.
Just to clarify that the AFTM of B737 specify that would be better in flight after the normal checks, do not leave the switch on battery as in this way some power is consumed from the battery.

Yeelep 23rd Sep 2012 16:45


Just to clarify that the AFTM of B737 specify that would be better in flight after the normal checks, do not leave the switch on battery as in this way some power is consumed from the battery.
Only on the Jurrasic/Classic, on the NG's it doesn't matter.


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