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Microburst2002 21st Jun 2012 15:44

A340 FE part computed GW and CG
 

FE WEIGHT COMPUTATION (BACKUP)
‐ When the aircraft is below 14 625 ft, and 255 kt :
GW = f(α, CAS, N1/EPR actual, CG from FE part, altitude)
‐ When the aircraft is above 14 625 ft, or 255 kt :
GW = TOGW – WFU
TOGW : Takeoff Gross Weight
WFU : Weight Fuel Used, acquired from the FADECs.
FE CENTER OF GRAVITY COMPUTATION (BACKUP/AFT CG WARNING)
The CG is computed from the position of the horizontal stabilizer, and is function of the N1/EPR,
Vc, ALT, MACH and GW from FE part.
I don't understand how each thing, GW and CG, use each other for computation. GW uses FE CG and CG uses FE GW. How can that be???

HazelNuts39 22nd Jun 2012 10:21

One of several ways to do it is by a process called 'iteration':

Step 1: Assume a CG position
Step 2: Compute Gross Weight
Step 3: Compute the horizontal stabilizer position for the computed GW and assumed CG
Step 4: Compare the computed to the actual position of the horizontal stabilizer.
- If the difference is less than a certain tolerance go to step 5, else -
- adjust assumed cg position and repeat steps 2, 3 and 4.
Step 5: Output GW and CG

Another method is interpolation:
Step 1: Compute GW and THS position for the CG on the forward limit
Step 2: Compute GW and THS position for the CG on the aft limit
Step 3: Interpolate GW and CG for the actual THS position

Microburst2002 22nd Jun 2012 12:28

Thank you. Sounds complicated, though

DutchOne 23rd Jun 2012 08:51

Its like the chicken and the egg. You need an egg to get the chicken, but no egg without a chicken. Hehehe

Microburst2002 23rd Jun 2012 11:25

I can answer the eggs and chicken question. But not this FE part thing...

aidey_f 23rd Jun 2012 16:04

Omlette, anyone?
 
Don't forget you're not starting from a null value, during the pre-flight one enters ZWF/ZFCG, the FCMC uses the fuel load and the input value to spit out an initial value for the FG/FM to work with.
Once you've got a starting value then the boxes can apply their magic to get a value out of what the aircraft is doing aerodynamically, as described above.

Microburst2002 23rd Jun 2012 16:55

It's like inserting coordinates in an IRS, then... If the insertion is not good, all subsequent computations are in error.


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