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Microburst2002 3rd Jun 2012 11:10

320 flap limitation
 
Can we fly above 20,000 ft with flaps extended?

I mean thet are extended Below, but then we climb to, say, FL 260.

Is that possible according to limitations?

Los Endos 3rd Jun 2012 11:18

Non monsieur.

i_like_tea 3rd Jun 2012 12:04

Agreed,

The FCOM clearly states the limitation:


Flaps and slats:
Max operating altitude with slats and/or flaps extended is 20 000 ft.
:)

john_tullamarine 3rd Jun 2012 12:20

Certification compliance consideration. Nothing specific to Airbus. Several threads on the subject in times past as, for example, here

Old Smokey 4th Jun 2012 07:44

It was done recently J_T, in an airline near you. That's probably why the question came up.:uhoh:

Best Regards,

Old Smokey

MD83FO 4th Jun 2012 09:51

You will get an ECAM at FL210

Microburst2002 7th Jun 2012 16:11

Thanks, guys


Flaps and slats:
Max operating altitude with slats and/or flaps extended is 20 000 ft.
Now re-reading I see that it is crystal clear: you cannot operate the airplane above 20,000 ft with slats or flaps extended.

and now the next question:

what about landing gear?
Can you extend it below 25,000 and 250 kt and then climb to FL280 with the gear down?

Here the english is not so clear to me:


Maximum altitude at which the landing gear may be extended............................................... 25 000 ft
I'll take a look at that thread, J.T, thanks

john_tullamarine 7th Jun 2012 22:43

I suspect that the non-investigated Mach considerations will apply to gear in a manner similar to flap. The basic rule of thumb is that the OEM isn't going to invest money in certification for altruism - the aim is to make dollars.

OS, what was the story there .. in a de-identified sort of way ?

Check Airman 8th Jun 2012 02:05


It was done recently J_T, in an airline near you. That's probably why the question came up.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/worry.gif
Would very much like to hear the story behind that as well. De-indentified if necessary.

Dan Winterland 8th Jun 2012 12:39

Oops.

Gear is usually a Mach thing. A mate of mine, when he was young and foolish had to ferry a Lightning with the gear down. Faced with a slow flight, he decided to climb high to get the TAS up, forgetting about the Mach lmit. Apparently, a Lightning doesn't do Mach 1 well with the gear down!


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