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rh200 10th Nov 2011 06:20


I take it you still believe in Santa Claus !!
Conspiracy theorists,:confused: I guess you still think the world is flat.

john_tullamarine 10th Nov 2011 10:07

.. back on track, please, chaps.

Mach Tuck 10th Nov 2011 13:26

I used to be involved on the periphery of research into this.

Radiation increases with altitude though above some 40,000ft the rate of increase reduces (at least for levels where civillian aircraft fly). At a constant altitude it increases from the equator towards the magnetic poles because a) the particles are attracted to the poles and are therefore more concentrated in that region and b) radiation is attenuated by the atmosphere; the atmosphere being deeper at the equator, you have more atmosphere above you and you are therefore more protected.

A trace of the measured radiation on a flight from the UK to Singapore showed a steep increase as the aircraft climbed to its initial cruising level and then a steady reduction as the aircraft progressed south, punctuated by two distinct upticks as higher cruising levels were attained. The level of radiation at TOD Singapore was very significantly lower that at TOC UK even though the aircraft was 8,000ft higher.

It's not much but I hope it helps...

MT

misd-agin 10th Nov 2011 14:08

You can compare flights between cities pairs using the CARI-6 program.

FAA Civil Aeromedical Institute - CARI

I researched three long haul city pairs between the U.S. to LHR vs. Tokyo. Radiation on the LHR flights were slightly higher even though the flights were shorter. With shorter flights a greater percentage of the flight is spent in the climb or descent vs. a longer flight. The shorter distance is flown, on average, at higher altitudes, so the net impact between the different city pairs is very small.

Thrashed 11th Nov 2011 21:17

Thanks, Mach Tuck. You confirmed what I thought to be true.

zxccxz 12th Nov 2011 22:12


Chart doesn't go high enough--what about FL410-FL470. I'm figuring' that the lowered risk of mid-air and being on top of a lot of weather compensates the odds.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2716/82251542.jpg

Here is the complete chart..
Radiation increases DRAMATICALLY with increasing altitude! ( concorde.. )
that's why in the jar ops it's compulsory to carry radiation measuring equipment onboard if you fly very high


(b) 1. an operator shall not operate an aeroplane above 15 000 m (49 000 ft) unless the equipment specified in
OPS 1.680(a)(1) is serviceable, or the procedure prescribed in OPS 1.680(a)(2) is complied with.
2. the commander or the pilot to whom conduct of the flight has been delegated shall initiate a descent as soon as
practicable when the limit values of cosmic radiation dose rate specified in the Operations Manual are exceeded.
and btw yes with increased latitude there is a lot more radiation! go on the cari website and do it by yourself..
ps: everytime I go fly I chk this:
Space Weather Warnings Currently in Effect
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/Proton.gif
On-line SWPC Weekly Publication in Adobe Acrobat(R) format


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