S.L.O.P. /offset in Africa
I fly in Africa quite abit. Several years ago I saw a form, I believe it was published by the IATA. It simply recommended that anytime you were in certain areas that required Inflight Broadcast procedures on 126.90 that you offset 1 mile right of course.
Does anybody know where I can find this recommendation in printed form? |
Nothing to do with IATA. The ICAO document may be found at the link below:
http://www.icao.int/wacaf/APIRG/2009.../Docs/WP13.pdf Regards, Tom |
The decision to apply a strategic lateral offset is the responsibility of the flight crew. We generally do not offset, except under exceptional circumstances. Those exceptional circumstances...the Commander decides to do so. |
You can actually fly on track and do SLOP at the same time, at least in NAT, since you are recommended to fly 0,1,2 or 3 miles right of track. Most of the flights I choose to SLOP 0 miles.
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You can actually fly on track and do SLOP at the same time, at least in NAT, since you are recommended to fly 0,1,2 or 3 miles right of track. Most of the flights I choose to SLOP 0 miles. 3nm is a new one on me? |
@ Bealzebub:
I stand corrected. :O |
I encourage you to SLOP if not prohibited
GPS seems to be more common today, and the accuracy this adds to navigation is incredible (.04nm after a North Atlantic crossing). An eye-opening event seems to occur about once every couple of years for me. Flying on a published airway or NAT track, another flight passes us from below. Both of us are GPS-equippped, and my radio altimeter comes alive (sometimes GPWS speaks up also). This demonstrates the accuracy of GPS, and this accuracy causes me to believe that whenever it is not prohibited, I will always SLOP when my jet has GPS.
With that in mind, I will always SLOP on the North Atlantic and WATRS airspace. I will SLOP in remote areas of South America where SLOP is not prohibited. Likewise for Africa (I have not been there), especially when in areas of IFBP (most of Africa I am told). I encourage all of you who operate with GPS-equipped jets to adopt SLOP. |
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Absolutely agree:ok::ok::ok:. Old dinosaurs like 411Z need serious re-education. Thankfully they don't fly much;) |
Having been born, bred, and learned to fly in Africa, I can say without hesitation that SLOP in the IFBP area is a damn good idea! Regardless of what 411C says ..... :rolleyes:
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Here's another thumbs up for SLOP in oceanic and African (and other) airspace.
:ok: Lights on (at night, obviously) is also some cheap insurance. :8 |
Having been born, bred, and learned to fly in Africa, I can say without hesitation that SLOP in the IFBP area is a damn good idea! |
Nothing against SLOP on the ocean, but what is the point where there are crossing airways. Unless "SLOPing" vertically. :=
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My own operating procedure is to add a SLOP if I'm doing IFBPs. Especially in Africa and especially during the Haj! It's free, easy and improves the safety margin by a huge factor. No one has to do it, unless it's in their SOPs (I'm aware of at least one company who has included it). It's an airmanship call and personal preference.
And with everyone maintaining the airway centreline within their own wingspan thes days, it makes a lot of sense. |
Does that mighty L1011 have the ability to do an offset with the currently installed LRN?
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Nothing against SLOP on the ocean, but what is the point where there are crossing airways. Unless "SLOPing" vertically. |
... and that incident has what to do with SLOP? :confused:
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Does that mighty L1011 have the ability to do an offset with the currently installed LRN? Even possible with the original Hamilton Sundstrand FMC units, circa 1977. |
IFBP, 2nm slop and lights on...
if LH choose not to thats upto them but for me its a must in africa!! |
Tommy Tilt and others,
Nothing to do with IATA. 1. The IATA In-Flight Broadcast Procedure (IFBP), part of which recommends broadcasting position reports at ETA -10mins on 126.9 and flying 1nm right of track; and 2. The ICAO SLOP as applied to the AFI region which allows for 1nm or 2nm right and allows the use of 126.9 to co-ordinate offsets amongst flight crew. The IATA IFBP was implemented as a temporary(!) measure several years ago, due to the poor co-ordination between neighbouring ATS providers. The ICAO SLOP as described in the WP13.pdf is part of the implementation of RVSM and is designed to "enhance safety by reducing the risk of collision in case of loss of vertical separation". I think that the paper (WP13) contained only the recommendations of a committee meeting which have not yet been officially adopted? In any case, both procedures have the aim of increasing flight safety by reducing the risk of collision and I for one always implement the IATA IFBP, including the 1nm offset. I must admit that I wasn't aware of the ICAO SLOP within AFI, with its 1nm or 2nm option, until reading this thread. I do apply SLOP in NAT and WATRS airspace. Live and learn! |
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